A beating in progress...stopped because the victim fortunately had a gun...or else it would have likely been much worse. Zimmerman had every reason to expect it to continue.

Too many yahoos with guns. That is and will even be a much bigger problem!

I forgot that everyone on the street is a trained fighter able to knock people down with one punch. The problem with your reasoning is that its based 100% on pure speculation. You weren't there so you have no idea how the events went down. Its also ironic that the police arrived a minute or so later, so the reality is that Z would not have died and brought this whole mess on himself.

Voted guilty of manslaughter, but he is most certainly not guilty of that.

After my son moved to Orlando, and I went to visit him the first time, I was amazed at how the demographics in his neighborhood literally changed from street to street. he was in a nice gated place but two blocks away reminded me of the South Bronx. I was pretty upset that he moved there after seeing that.

As far as the original topic, he will be found guilty.

Z was carrying legally. If TM reacted to it by attacking/beating Z...he still has a problem.

Some do...some do not. Martin lacked in training.

Guess we would do well to teach young men not to face punch folks...you never know if they might be carrying. Would you feel the same if Zimmerman had been a woman? If so, why/why not?

Quoted/fixed/repaired in truth (in bold above) for your non-american selves!

Actually it is based on testimony of the only witness and injuries that match. It is not difficult to get a single punch knockdown...especially in a surprise attack. A minute is a long time (30 to 60 more blows to the head)...the injuries we see and the shooting apparently only took about a minute.

Excellent question. My guess would be that she deserved her insemination. Fffffff her via current media attention.

you know it would be worse how?

don't bother answering, it isn't worth it. The bar for a beating is a LOT higher than what Zimmerman's injuries indicate. That's why he's guilty of manslaughter. And he even provoked the entire thing. anyway.

That is the only thing that makes sense. Trayvor Martin was walking home peacefully to his father's house in Zimmerman's neighborhood. Zimmerman was intent on not letting young Trayvor Martin "get away". So he followed him unnecessarily an started harassing him. When Tayvor kept walking, Zimmerman conscious the stand-your ground laws saw justified to shoot Trayvor Martin. That is the only thing that makes sense. Zimmerman's account of events is naturally highly self serving.

Legally, I think he doesn't actually have to be injured at all.

JR

Floriduh is #42.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/06/28/states-with-the-most-guns.html

I'll leave it to you to come live a mile in my moccasins(shoes).

Why would Mr Martin have stopped beating on the creepy cracker that was following him? There is no evidence that Mr Zimmerman provoked anything, unless talking to someone is justification for a punch in the face. He got a broken nose and his head bounced off the ground at least a few times. He did not have lacerations on his hands, to my knowledge, but Mr Martin did.

You say Fint sets the bar too low. Okay, how severe must a beating be prior to defending yourself?

Could you please point out where anyone said or even implied this?

If he wants to win in court he does.

I don't understand the love for a guy that got out of his car, accosted someone, and then killed that person.

We'll see folks being Zimmerman'ed a lot if he gets off.

Zimmerman verdict sparks worry of riots

I mentioned this in the other thread. People just can't accept or believe that justice will be served.

This is exactly why the Police told him "we dont need you to follow him" Zimmerman assumed somewhat of an authoritative, security type position as the neighborhood watch, which are specifically NOT to follow or engage by the way. He had an extra duty to go out of his way in order to effectively communicate who he was and what his intentions were if he happened to run into Martin. (again, had he followed police instructions this would not have happened) Not only did he lack basic self defense training, he also lacked basic conflict resolution training and overall interpersonal communication. The reality is that Zimmerman was an untrained citizen armed with a loaded gun attempting to play law enforcement. Due to his lack of training and poor judgment he put himself in a situation that ultimately claimed the life of an innocent person. I have a hard time seeing that he can bear no responsibility in this.

There is no evidence that young Martin was folllowing rogue "neighborhood watchman" Zimmerman. That is Z's self serving story and it does not make sense. Z obviously was following Martin and confronted him. That is what makes sense, period.