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Many years in the business in a previous lifetime. Lesson taught to me early in career was that if the food was slow to come out of the kitchen, make sure it was correct when it left the kitchen and was hot and fresh.
Yup.
But for the basic/demanding/hungry/new customer who is waiting for expensive food and wants to be comfortable in a new environment...
-Bread and butter, with vino/other with an intriguing/stimulating server, will continue the positive experience further for hours and hours through the night.
-Repeat their experience next day, or week, or month.


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Old 03-14-2014, 12:23 PM
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the portions HAVE gottne smaller, and not just the main course. the salads. i dotn under stand why restaurants go cheap on things like salads, french fries, you know, the cheap stuff.
Frankly, I like when a meal isn't accompanied by 3 gallons of french fries or 3 pounds of salad. We are a nation of fat asses and part of the reason is portion. So many folks feel that to get their moneys worth they need a huge plate that's overflowing with food. I can eat a huge plate that's overflowing with food, and if it's set in front of me, I just might. I'd rather get just enough good food.

I don't intend this as a personal attack, I understand and have wanted more food and still occasionally want more. I just don't need more food.
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Frankly, I like when a meal isn't accompanied by 3 gallons of french fries or 3 pounds of salad. We are a nation of fat asses and part of the reason is portion. So many folks feel that to get their moneys worth they need a huge plate that's overflowing with food. I can eat a huge plate that's overflowing with food, and if it's set in front of me, I just might. I'd rather get just enough good food.
For this reason my wife and I usually split a meal between the two of us...

and it saves money...

Ok, and I'm a fat ass...
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Frankly, I like when a meal isn't accompanied by 3 gallons of french fries or 3 pounds of salad. We are a nation of fat asses and part of the reason is portion. So many folks feel that to get their moneys worth they need a huge plate that's overflowing with food. I can eat a huge plate that's overflowing with food, and if it's set in front of me, I just might. I'd rather get just enough good food.

I don't intend this as a personal attack, I understand and have wanted more food and still occasionally want more. I just don't need more food.
I agree. I am thankful when a restaurant serves smaller portions that are satisfying. The last 20 years food portion has gotten out of control and we all look like it. My wife and I often order one meal now or split a salad if we know they overserve. I don't always want to take 1/2 my dinner home but it happens a lot.
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Beretta fan..good list but the first one is "off" in my opinion...and yes, I sell food to restaurants for Sysco. The biggest issue I see on a daily basis is a customers belief that they can purchase a pre-breaded, frozen whatever and make a name for themselves.
I have the privilege to work with many talented chefs that still actually practice the art of cooking while MASTERING the art of business.
I routinely sell fresh seafood, very high quality All- Natural beef, chicken, lamb. Incredibly fresh, local herbs and produce. Phenomenal imported cheeses....you get the idea. The point is, the purveyor is not the issue..the lack of vision, talent and knowledge is always to blame.
I can sell frozen chicken fingers and pre-made burgers but rarely do to my customers...if that is their thing, I'm usually not the right salesperson for them because I have a strong opinion on just what constitutes a good "recipe" for success and pre-made products are usually not part of the equation.

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I don't own a restaurant (too smart for that) but I've done tax returns for MANY over the years and I LOVE good food.

#1 rule to running a good restaurant:
Quality of food is inversely proportionate to Sysco purchases.

#2 rule
Your employees are stealing from you.

#3 rule
Portion control

#4 rule
Payroll cost must be in line

#5 rule
If you paid too much either in purchase or rent then you are doomed to fail before you even begin.

#6 rule
If the owner is absent so is service and quality
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All of the above is important. As a business traveler, I appreciate when the wait staff doesn't act like a robot and actually interacts with me a little, like they might be appreciative/be interested in the fact that I came into their restaurant. A few words like "How are You", or "Are you visiting [insert name of City]. "What brings you here". I know they are busy and don't have time to chat, but a few words make me feel like they appreciate my business.

All that goes a long way towards a better tip. Male or female wait staff, it doesn't matter.
When I was driving alone out to AZ from VA, I stopped at a TX Roadhouse in OK City and was starving. The waiter was a teenager. Without any introduction, he sat down across from me in the booth and said, "So are you ready to order man, or what?"

Anyone else would have been aghast, but I actually like his nerve. I wonder where he's working now.
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How do you define "good service" ?
What are examples of bad service?
Service. They write down your order, and carry it to you.
How much variation have you experienced?
Are you looking to make friends with the server?
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Pet peeve of mine:

I hate to be interrupted when eating or talking. I was taught that is rude.

When I talking to someone, why am I asked every 3 minutes if everything is OK? Why to I have to swallow too fast to answer?
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How do you define "good service" ?
What are examples of bad service?
Service. They write down your order, and carry it to you.
How much variation have you experienced?
Are you looking to make friends with the server?

Bring everyone a glass of water as soon as seated. Don't make me ask.

Don't disappear for 20 minutes after taking my drink order. I came in because I was hungry and I'm the driver so I need to make my one drink last.

Don't disappear for 20 minutes after dropping the check. When I ask for the check that means I'm ready to pay and if you see I have my card in hand that means if you wait 5 seconds you can take it.

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Pet peeve of mine:

I hate to be interrupted when eating or talking.
And don't do that more than once. If there is a problem trust me, you will know.
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having cooked professionally, I know why restaurants go under so often, but also can't believe they do. Running a restaurant is not that difficult. People that run them are often idiots.
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having cooked professionally, I know why restaurants go under so often, but also can't believe they do. Running a restaurant is not that difficult. People that run them are often idiots.
I recently went to a restaurant in Palm Springs. Great food, but sometimes food was cold when it was supposed to be hot. I read the reviews and sure enough folks experienced exactly what I did. Do restaurant owners read their restaurant reviews? If they do then they can see what needs to be fixed.....G.
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A simple menu they can prepare well, not trying to be all things to all people
This is key to me. Unless you have 20 folks in the back there is no way every item on a 4 page menu is good and fresh. I did some basic line cook work while in college, taught me a lot about quality and cleanliness.

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