Anyone know utility trailers?

[LakeCleElum]

Six Robblees' Inc. | Since 1913

[john70t]

Originally Posted by Christien

The trailer's only 2 years old - 2012 model.

Way too much rust for only a couple years.

Do your friend a favor and recommend undercoating/waxoyl/rust convert/structural reinforcement/other extreme measures.
That thing is going to be tossed in five if something isn't done.

[LJ851]

Originally Posted by Christien

Look at the bottom of the stub axle, it is not even remotely the same shape in profile as the top of the axle. That is completely ruined.

If you were hauling at night it would have been an impressive light show !

[john70t]

Good eye, LJ851, but is that where the races seat?
The bearing separated then the wayward rollers dug a chunk from the outboard stub.
Welded and smoothed, nobody would know the difference.

Edit: Nevermind. The threads are pooched as well.

[E38Driver]

Those hubs look like they have sat underwater for a while. I would replace the entire axle and hub assembly

Dave

[wdfifteen]

Hubs and axles are readily available, but all hubs may not fit all axles. If it was my trailer, given the amount of damage, I would get a new axle with hubs mounted. That would eliminate any parts incompatibility, give me the chance to upgrade the weight rating, and it's way easier than welding a new stub on the axle beam. Remember to check the bearing lube and preload before you use the trailer. They slap them together haphazardly at the factory.

[johnsjmc]

Axles are cheap at Princess auto. Intruder trailers in Hamilton also has parts .Measure the axle flange to flange and determine the load rating (from the certification label if a factory built trailer. That axle is ruined and easiest fix is a new one. PA has a 2000 lb axle on sale now which might include hubs etc for $99

[yetibone]

That stub looks better than what's on a lot of the landscaping trailers I work on.

Most trailer hubs and bearings are standard sizes for the weight rating of the axle. Some boat trailers' hubs, bearings and seals are funky sizes, especially when you get into surge brakes, and mobile home axle parts won't interchange with anything, but non-home built utility trailers have standard bearings, hubs, seals, castle nuts, lock washers, etc...

That one looks like it could be fixed if in a pinch. The stuff on the bearing surfaces is just grease that has collected burnt up metal from the rollers and turned to a rusty looking paste. The flat part of the threaded portion is to locate the lock washer for the castle nut.

Considering what the other hub may look like, locating parts to fix what you know is wrong, wondering if the stub got weak from the heat, finding a die to chase the threads on that damaged stub, and as cheap as an end-to-end axle assembly would cost, it's easier and more cost effective to buy a new axle.

[yetibone]

BTW, that's probably a 2000 lb. GWR axle.

[Christien]

I ended up replacing the whole axle. A new one complete with hub assemblies was $190. It took the better part of 8 hours, most of which was removing the old nuts from the U-bolts and the leaf spring attachments. They were harder to remove than 30-year-old exhaust nuts - literally.

It was definitely a 3500lb axle, and that's what I replaced it with.

[vash]

my uncle once said, "the best trailer is a friend's trailer"

i borrow cantdrv55's..it is awesome!! and so is he, letting a nut like me borrow it. i did repack the bearings last time i had it. just in case.

[vash]

Originally Posted by Christien

I ended up replacing the whole axle. A new one complete with hub assemblies was $190. It took the better part of 8 hours, most of which was removing the old nuts from the U-bolts and the leaf spring attachments. They were harder to remove than 30-year-old exhaust nuts - literally.

It was definitely a 3500lb axle, and that's what I replaced it with.

did you go with those "bearing buddies"? my brother has them on his boat trailer. kinda cool. (wish i invented that damn thing)

[KFC911]

How many of you guys use "S" hooks on your safety chains? I had some pretty beefy "S" hooks straighten out like they weren't even there when I was hauling a heavy load of dirt 'bout 5 years ago and had a tongue failure (metal fatigue). Just damn lucky to be here as the jerking trailer cause me to veer into the opposite lane as I was regaining control and before the trailer went off to the side of the road. I've since replaced all of my trailers' safety chain "S" hooks with "O" type connections that screw together. DO IT...I learned the hard way but with no major damage....YMMV.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Christien

I ended up replacing the whole axle. A new one complete with hub assemblies was $190. It took the better part of 8 hours, most of which was removing the old nuts from the U-bolts and the leaf spring attachments. They were harder to remove than 30-year-old exhaust nuts - literally.

It was definitely a 3500lb axle, and that's what I replaced it with.

Good on ya.

Last time I borrowed something it was a buddies pressure washer.

Had an issue with mine and did not feel like dealing with it right then and there.

Just as I was finishing up the hose on my buddies split.

Was not my fault, nothing I did, it was "just time"

I went out and got him a new hose, better than what I was replacing.

Brought it back to him with both hoses and explained what happened.

He asked why I bothered to replace it, it clearly wasn't my fault.

Said cause my dad taught me you return things in the same or better shape than it was when you borrowed it.

[Christien]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

Said cause my dad taught me you return things in the same or better shape than it was when you borrowed it.

Exactly. In the end, he's paying for the part and I did the labour to install. I did protest, then said how about 50/50, but he chalked it up to an already-failing part, and was happy to have the peace of mind that the other side is fine. When I bought the new one, the guy did say it needs greasing once a year. Also discovered the leaf spring bushings are shot, so I'll probably replace those for him too.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by Christien

I ended up replacing the whole axle. A new one complete with hub assemblies was $190. It took the better part of 8 hours, most of which was removing the old nuts from the U-bolts and the leaf spring attachments. They were harder to remove than 30-year-old exhaust nuts - literally.

It was definitely a 3500lb axle, and that's what I replaced it with.

Well done.

The circle of people I lend things to is tight...you'd be in it.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by vash

my uncle once said, "the best trailer is a friend's trailer"

Hey, your uncle may be my neighbor!

[aigel]

Nicely done.

I can't believe that trailer is 2 years old. The RUST! 50 years old here in CA would look about he same, if that.

I borrow trailers from Uhaul. They are $30/day for a 6x12.

G

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by vash

my uncle once said, "the best trailer is a friend's trailer"

i borrow cantdrv55's..it is awesome!! and so is he, letting a nut like me borrow it....

Originally Posted by aigel

....I borrow trailers from Uhaul. They are $30/day for a 6x12.

G

Soooo....you don't have any friends (suckers) like Cliff does ?

ps: I keed....I'm like Seahawk...my circle of "loaning/borrowing" is tiny, but for those, I don't worry one bit....they're like the OP and others posting on this thread