F1 new rule

[yellowperil]

Charlie Whiting issued new rule on pit radio exchanges "the driver must race the car alone and unaided"
so no more help from the pits as to aiding car performance.

Can they make it stick.,??

[nostatic]

That means they'll just put more displays on the steering wheel and put haptics into the fire suit. If we buzz your right arm, change the brake bias, three shocks to the left thigh mean dial down the turbo boost, etc...

[Craig T]

Originally Posted by nostatic

If we buzz your right arm, change the brake bias, three shocks to the left thigh mean dial down the turbo boost, etc...

Thats right!!! Plus, we'll probably hear radio chat like this:

Toto: "Lewis, you left your hotel room unlockled. The front door, not the back door"
Hamilton: "OK, I think I left my car door unlocked too. Will it be OK"
Toto: "Ok Lewis, we're looking into it"

Toto: "Lewis, OK, we think you should put the cat out at the first opportunity"

[URY914]

I like the new rule. They hire drives to drive, not listen to someone else plot the race for them.

[peppy]

Didn't they catch a team a few years ago jamming the signals of other teams doing this?

[Don Plumley]

Originally Posted by Craig T

Thats right!!! Plus, we'll probably hear radio chat like this:

Toto: "Lewis, you left your hotel room unlockled. The front door, not the back door"
Hamilton: "OK, I think I left my car door unlocked too. Will it be OK"
Toto: "Ok Lewis, we're looking into it"

Toto: "Lewis, OK, we think you should put the cat out at the first opportunity"

That's great!

[kang]

The new pit boards:

[kang]

Pit board jokes aside, here is a good article:

F1 teams told coded instructions will not be allowed either - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

EXAMPLES OF WHAT IS AND WHAT IS NOT ALLOWED

Allowed

- Telling a driver when he is allowed to or meant to stop for new tyres

- Team orders in terms of overtaking or letting a team-mate past

- Warning a driver about the traffic situation during qualifying and the race

- Safety warning relating to yellow flags or dangerous situations on the track

Not allowed

- Informing a driver to change any settings on his car to improve its performance

- Informing a driver about his fuel consumption and how to manage his pace

- Informing a driver about his own performance in sectors and where he can improve

- Informing a driver about the condition or state of his tyres

- Informing a driver how best to approach the formation lap or setting changes to make better start

[cockerpunk]

gonna be a lot more busted up cars.

[Craig T]

Originally Posted by cockerpunk

gonna be a lot more busted up cars.

Maybe...But we may also see some leaders run out of gas.

I like the new rule. The better drivers will take the advantage.

[yellowperil]

I like the new rule. The better drivers will take the advantage.[/QUOTE]

I like it too., let the driver drive.

[Craig T]

Then there's Kimi..."Leave me alone...I know what I'm doing"

[Iciclehead]

I do get the intent behind the new rule, after all, they call it the World Driving championship, not the World Engineer championship (aka Constructors championship).

I think they ought to approach it a different way though. I think they ought to get rid of all telemetry from the car to the pits, with perhaps the exception of tire pressure or a few major engine functions...really only those with a material safety impact.

Then make the radio all they want it to be, the driver can read out to his hearts content and listen as far as he wants, but there is no data on the car in the pits (other than the few exceptions I mention).

Part of driving is managing the car, its capabilities and current handicaps.....

Dennis

[lane912]

^^^^
THIS
I was going to say no telemetry by radio, only at a pit stop can it be downloaded- but getting rid of it completely is even better-

[lane912]

drivers will refuse to have all that data streaming at them too, they just want to drive-

[kang]

The FIA is clarifying the rule.

Team radio clampdown extends to Formula 1 pit boards - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

WHAT IS ALLOWED

- Acknowledgement that a driver message has been heard.
- Lap or sector time detail.
- Lap time detail of a competitor.
- Gaps to a competitor during a practice session or race.
- "Push hard", "push now", "you will be racing xx" or similar.
- Helping with warning of traffic during a practice session or race.
- Giving the gaps between cars in qualifying so as to better position the car for a clear lap.
- Puncture warning.
- Tyre choice at the next pit stop.
- Number of laps a competitor has done on a set of tyres during a race.
- Tyre specification of a competitor.
- Indication of a potential problem with a competitor's car during a race.
- Information concerning a competitors likely race strategy.
- Yellow flags, blue flags, Safety Car deployment or other cautions.

WHAT IS NOT ALLOWED

- Sector time detail of a competitor and where a competitor is faster or slower.
- Adjustment of power unit settings.
- Adjustment of power unit setting to de-rate the systems.
- Adjustment of gearbox settings.
- Learning of gears of the gearbox, allowing the ECU to record the position of the gears releative to each other for the seamless shift system (will only be enforced from the Japanese GP onwards).
- Balancing the SOC [state-of-charge of batteries] or adjusting for performance.
- Information on fuel flow settings (except if requested to do so by race control).
- Information on level of fuel saving needed.
- Information on tyre pressures or temperatures (will only be enforced from the Japanese GP onwards).
- Information on differential settings.
- Start maps related to clutch position, for race start and pit stops.
- Information on clutch maps or settings, e.g. bite point.
- Burn-outs prior to race starts.
- Information on brake balance or BBW (brake-by-wire) settings.
- Warning on brake wear or temperatures (will only be enforced from the Japanese GP onwards).
- Selection of driver default settings (other than in the case of a clearly identified problem with the car).
- Answering a direct question from a driver, e.g. "Am I using the right torque map"?
- Any message that appears to be coded.

[kang]

I could see safety issues above, like warnings on brake wear or temperature. You cannot warn the driver of an impending brake failure. Perhaps they will relax the rule in this case and allow messages warning brake failure, like "shift the balance rearward or your front brakes will fail."

I also see poor starts due to start maps and clutch position. I don't understand this one, how does a better driver do this better than someone else?

I also see some DNF's due to fuel, but perhaps they can put fuel usage numbers on the steering wheel.

[Iciclehead]

Originally Posted by kang

I could see safety issues above, like warnings on brake wear or temperature. You cannot warn the driver of an impending brake failure. Perhaps they will relax the rule in this case and allow messages warning brake failure, like "shift the balance rearward or your front brakes will fail."

I also see poor starts due to start maps and clutch position. I don't understand this one, how does a better driver do this better than someone else?

I also see some DNF's due to fuel, but perhaps they can put fuel usage numbers on the steering wheel.

I think the root issue is that the cars no longer reflect any sort of real relationship to motoring in the real world. Perhaps a de-rate is required so that the driver actually controls things like clutch engagement with his foot, sort of like real life, and the less complicated car will have an advantage as a real human can actually drive it.

Brake failure, no reason to have the pits say anything. I have wear sensors on my 911.....big 'effin light comes on if there is a problem, just like oil pressure. No reason why F1 cannot be the same. The sight of Villeneuve or other great drivers nursing a car to the finish are real examples of the human experience of driving, rather than the digital/silicon one.

Only fear I have on starts are replays of the Paletti incident...stopped car on grid, gets smacked from the rear at high speed with bad results.

Dennis

[Miguel Antonett]

I'm with Kimi, "leave me alone, I know what I'm doing". Another reason they get paid the big bucks.

There should be NO radio communications - same to everyone. Let the drivers drive the cars without a goof and computers from the pit lane telling them what to do = distracting...

That's the main reason to have flags and corner workers.

[kang]

Speaking of distracting...

The more stuff they put on the steering wheel, the greater the distraction. There has already been an incident caused by this, I don't recall exactly when, last season? The driver was doing something like adjusting the diff, and didn't see the other driver. Boom.