At least this one's going to jail.

[Brando]

Originally Posted by nynor

what are the statistics again for professions that attract sociopaths?

LinkedIn and The Blaze put good lists together.

Careers for Sociopaths

1. Lawyer
2. CEO
3. Clergy
4. Surgeon
5. Politician
6. Salesperson
7. Police Officer
The literal badge of power and authority on your chest, a deadly weapon on your hip along with the authority to use it. Luckily most police officers are not sociopaths, but those who are will abuse their power, resent the people they are meant to protect, and use cold-hearted superiority to justify their viciousness. It's an unfortunate reality that some of the biggest criminals lurk among those who've sworn to uphold the law.

Jobs most likely to attract Sociopaths

Here’s the list of jobs with the highest rates of psychopathy:

1. CEO
2. Lawyer
3. Media
4. Salesperson
5. Surgeon
6. Journalist
7. Police Officer
8. Clergy person
9. Chef
10. Civil Servant

[speeder]

Well, he's been charged:

Sean Groubert, South Carolina State Trooper, Fired & Arrested After Shooting Unarmed Man

[Don Ro]

Bloody good!!!!
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Originally Posted by HHI944

The cop seems off....
... there's something more to his story.

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Originally Posted by Don Ro

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"The cop seems off...... there's something more to his story."
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I picked up on that, too.

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You just can't get past the perspicacity of the PPOT group.
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[Don Ro]

As a someone who's curious about the world of onctic obscuration (the sub-optimal psychological atmosphere of personality disorders), I am interested in those links and the info that Brando posted.
I'm going to look at that.
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Bloody Damn!!!

[cstreit]

Wow.... I can see why his actions made the cop nervous. He did move quickly and he didn't say "Okay, I hear you, I am going to grab my license." He never spoke, he just turned, reached in the car, and turned back." This certainly doesn't warrant the shooting, but I think some responsibility lays on both sides. Again, not right, but the we ALL need to consider the climate of the day when interacting. I can't see this happening with a middle-aged white dude reaching into his Mercedes though.

From the speed at which the cop started firing he was ALREADY nervous though.... The guys is super lucky that cop is a terrible shot.

This is why I never, EVER, reach for anything without asking permission and telling the officer exactly what I am doing. "My insurance card is in the glove box. May I reach in slowly and get it Sir?"

[Don Ro]

Originally Posted by cstreit

Wow.... I can see why his actions made the cop nervous. He did move quickly and he didn't say "Okay, I hear you, I am going to grab my license." He never spoke, he just turned, reached in the car, and turned back." This certainly doesn't warrant the shooting, but I think some responsibility lays on both sides. Again, not right, but the we ALL need to consider the climate of the day when interacting. I can't see this happening with a middle-aged white dude reaching into his Mercedes though.

From the speed at which the cop started firing he was ALREADY nervous though.... The guys is super lucky that cop is a terrible shot.

This is why I never, EVER, reach for anything without asking permission and telling the officer exactly what I am doing. "My insurance card is in the glove box. May I reach in slowly and get it Sir?"

I'd be leaving off the "Sir"...if it were me. But, yes, all else I'd do (and do)...and cautiously so.
I understand the stress involved in that line of work, but sometimes in this life we have to take responsibility for the neurosis of others...and in the case of some LEOs, it's vital.
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Edit: My first viewing of that video and my first thought was that the kid seemed eager to please the LEO by quickly fetching what he thought he ought to provide. He just moved too quickly at doing so. What a shame!

[SilberUrS6]

For a traffic stop, if you want to make the officer comfortable (less likely to haul off and shoot you for the hell of it), I understand you need to do the following:

Car off, hazards on.
Keys on dash.
Windows down.
Both hands on steering wheel.
Using the word "sir" helps to prevent any kind of "attitude"-related misunderstandings.
Ask permission to get documentation. "My driver's license is in my wallet - my I get it?" Then move slowly.

Cops in a good mood are safer than cops who are nervous. Cops who are in a good mood MIGHT be more likely to issue a warning, rather than a citation. Win-win?

[Brando]

And don't forget to grovel.

[speeder]

Yes, I agree. It's best to act like a runaway slave who's just been pulled-over 5 miles from the plantation.

Or a Jewish family pulled-over by the gestapo in 1940.

WTF?

[nynor]

yes, because we SHOULD grovel to those for whom we pay their salaries and who are sworn to 'serve and protect' us.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by Brando

And don't forget to grovel.

Yes. The above suggestion to call someone half your age and IQ, "sir", does not go far enough, (at least in the case of the cop in the video). You need to use it repeatedly:

"Yessir, yessir, yessir, please don't shoot me! PLEASE don't shoot me with my hands up! Oh I beg you, SIR! Please don't kill me, sir!

[SilberUrS6]

Originally Posted by Brando

And don't forget to grovel.

And don't be black or Hispanic. Being either one of those is hazardous to your health.

Sure, if you want a body-cavity search at the local cop-shop, be a d|ck to the guy who pulls you over. Antagonize him so that if he is a sociopath, you get to feel what "being policed" feels like.

Or, take some steps to minimize the potential for a bad outcome.

Actually, the biggest step to take is to not get pulled over in the first place.

[Don Ro]

OK, gents...I'll tell this story about a "good cop" experience.
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One of my old moto riding buddies was a County Superior Court Judge and he'd invite to me LEO events...BBQ's, shooting events, etc.
'Met a ton of really good guys in those days and I was on first name basis with many of them.
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At the time I had my business with several employees and was always in a hurry when alone in one of my trucks.
I got tickets for rolling stops, speeding, improper lane change, etc.
Well, I got my 5th ticket and then a letter from the DMV stating that one more ticket and I'd lose my lic.
And that I had to go to a special driving school that focused on attitude.
BTW, I think that next school above that was where they give you electric shock therapy - not sure. (j/k).
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Within a few years my driving record was clean. BUT, I got another traffic ticket and qualified for traffic school.
On my way to that particular traffic school, I made a bad move in traffic due to being late. Got stopped.
As the cop was coming back to me with his book, I slammed my fist on top of the steering wheel.
He said, "Having a problem?"
I said, "Do you know where I'm going? I'm going to traffic school. I made a commitment to myself to clear 5 tickets off my record, and now this. I am just pissed at myself."
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Well, I waited and waited for the courtesy notice to come in the mail, and none came.
I called the court and gave them the docket # and they said, "No record with that #."
So I called my Superior Court Judge buddy and asked him what to do. He said, "Do nothing."
I asked him if I ought to contact the cop via his badge # and thank him.
"No! No! No! He already knows what he did. He probably looked at your record and saw that you told him the truth. You got away with one, and he knows it."
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And I never met that cop before nor after.
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[Brando]

There's a reason this is my ringtone...

[nynor]

i prefer:

[stomachmonkey]

All great advice when you are pulled over except Jones was already out of his car and had no idea why the officer was engaging him unlike a normal stop when we usually know we did X which got the cops attention.

He's asked for his license and you can see him check his pocket before he turns to get it from the car.

Then the cop tells him to get out of the car and shoots him for following direction the 2nd time.

1,000% cops fault for not controlling the situation.

If he's nervous he should have instructed Jones to step away from the vehicle.

Once Jones was in the vehicle officer should have instructed him to remain still.

Not get out of the car and then shoot him for complying.

To say a civilian shares fault for following an officers instructions, twice, and being shot for doing so is ludicrous.

[Don Ro]

Boom!
Well put.

[J P Stein]

Originally Posted by speeder

Yes, I agree. It's best to act like a runaway slave who's just been pulled-over 5 miles from the plantation.

Or a Jewish family pulled-over by the gestapo in 1940.

WTF?

Sure, denigrate/ignore good advice..........be captain chaos and scare a cop.

*News flash for slow leaks.*

The cop is in charge whether you like it or not......cause he's got the gun.

[Don Ro]

JP,
If I'm not mistaken, this is a forum of opinions...and often sarcasm.

[nynor]

Originally Posted by J P Stein

Sure, denigrate/ignore good advice..........be captain chaos and scare a cop.

*News flash for slow leaks.*

The cop is in charge whether you like it or not......cause he's got the gun.

right. so he has carte blanche and you must obey the MAN!

the most polite stop i have ever had was when my shotgun case and my AR15 were in plain view in the front seat.