At least this one's going to jail.

[GH85Carrera]

When I was a teenager a cop friend of mine told me that when I get pulled over do NOT ever make sudden movements. Don't ever reach in the glove box, under the seat or grab for something the cop can't see. Keep both hand on top of the steering wheel and answer yes sir or no sir.

I have the advantage of being a old white guy and I still follow that advice.

None of that excuses this cop for shooting the guy. It must be a tough thing for any cop to know that some people do intend to shoot their way out of any encounter. I don't know how they deal with it. I could never be a cop. I likely would have shot the guy as well and that is why I don't want to be a cop.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by Don Ro

Interesting.
I wonder which of the 3 countries has more crime per capita...America, Germany, or Austria.

A quick google says our murder rate is 4X Germany and Austria.

North America is likewise over 4X that of Western Europe.

Source: List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's the U.S. glorification of guns that is the problem.

[Don Ro]

"It's the U.S. glorification of guns that is the problem."
~~~~~~~~
I'm thinking that if it's so much higher here in America, wouldn't it be wise for a citizenry to arm themselves against that?

[J P Stein]

Originally Posted by Don Ro

"It's the U.S. glorification of guns that is the problem."
~~~~~~~~
I'm thinking that if it's so much higher here in America, wouldn't it be wise for a citizenry to arm themselves against that?

Political correctness forbids people from even talking about the real cause of the problem.....it's much easier to blame an inanimate object.

[71scgc]

Subject all apologetic.

Not so the cop.

What a POS.

And they wonder why people run from them. At a minimum you get thrown in the dirt and humiliated. At the maximum, this...
I have no respect at all for cops. They have no respect for me, so turnabout is fair play.

Carter

[stomachmonkey]

It was a bad stop. Officer botched it from the word go.

If he was afraid of a gun in the car his first instruction should have been, "Sir can I ask you to step away from the car"

[Don Ro]

Originally Posted by J P Stein

Political correctness forbids people from even talking about the real cause of the problem.....it's much easier to blame an inanimate object.

Given that, I withdraw my sensible argument.

[Baz]

Too many bad guys getting out of jail. Last time a violent crime was reported....did you notice they were REPEAT offenders? Some of these scum bags have a rap sheet a MILE long. No wonder law enforcement (and the public) feel like they are under siege.

I'm not excusing this cop from his actions.

But.....our criminal justice system is not processing violent offenders very well, IMHO.

Bad guys need to go away for a long long long long time....

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Bad guys need to be not created in the first place.

Existing bad guys need to be rehabilitated.

[Don Ro]

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa

Bad guys need to be not created in the first place.

Existing bad guys need to be rehabilitated.

I'm speechless. But thanks for the chuckle.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

That guy was packin' a can of spaghetti-os for sure! Totally justified!

http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/ashley-huff/

[polo classic]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

I am sad to agree with this. Imagine what it's like for foreigners who have no idea how easy it is to get shot by police here. Why the hell should anyone without a weapon in their hand have to fear getting shot by an agent of the state?

Cops don't even carry guns over here..

[CalPersFatCat]

Originally Posted by speeder

Oddly enough, the cop doesn't seem like "bad guy", per se. Just unbelievably incompetent. Like how on earth did he ever get that job??

.

Groubert, 31, who was the 2007 S.C. Trooper of the Year...

[CalPersFatCat]

Originally Posted by JavaBrewer

Another trained professional at work.

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[intakexhaust]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

That guy was packin' a can of spaghetti-os for sure! Totally justified!

Woman arrested for possessing spoon covered with dried Spaghettios | Police State USA

I hope some pitbull lawyer can turn the tables for this poor woman victim. Only 23 years old and almost destroying her future by plea bargain. EF the Pub-D too! He's acting as if its such a shame but where's his spine? What kind of a bobo county operation is this? This is where I'm all in favor of massive awards to victims and it hits the taxpayers. In time, the people will say enough is enough and slam the doors on police state lunacy.

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by HHI944

COLUMBIA, SC: Lawyer: Trooper in Columbia shooting might have PTSD | Crime | The State

that'll be the basis of his defense.

[afterburn 549]

Cops, are not what they used to be.
They are turning out to be a scared bunch of morons .
If they can not accept the "risk" they should not accept the job.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa

Bad guys need to be not created in the first place.
Existing bad guys need to be rehabilitated.

Originally Posted by Don Ro

I'm speechless. But thanks for the chuckle.

+100
Sounds like something out of our 1969 drug induced "make love not war" wishful thinking.
Lets sue the company that built those bad guys until they recall every last one and fix them.

[nynor]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

Cops, are not what they used to be.
They are turning out to be a scared bunch of morons .
If they can not accept the "risk" they should not accept the job.

what are the statistics again for professions that attract sociopaths?

[HHI944]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

that'll be the basis of his defense.

Yes it will.....not to come to his defense, but the manner in which we treat officers post-shooting in this state is pretty archaic. You're better of trying to get legit love from the VA for PTSD....