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Elon Musk: ‘With artificial intelligence we are summoning the demon.’
Tesla chief executive Elon Musk has warned about artificial intelligence before, tweeting that it could be more dangerous than nuclear weapons. Speaking Friday at the MIT Aeronautics and Astronautics department’s Centennial Symposium, Musk called it our biggest existential threat:
I think we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. If I were to guess like what our biggest existential threat is, it’s probably that. So we need to be very careful with the artificial intelligence. Increasingly scientists think there should be some regulatory oversight maybe at the national and international level, just to make sure that we don’t do something very foolish. With artificial intelligence we are summoning the demon. In all those stories where there’s the guy with the pentagram and the holy water, it’s like yeah he’s sure he can control the demon. Didn’t work out. Musk was so caught up on artificial intelligence that he missed the audience’s next question. “Sorry can you repeat the question, I was just sort of thinking about the AI thing for a second,” he said. Musk spoke expansively for over an hour, at one point even asking a MIT student what his favorite sci-fi books were. He left to a standing ovation. AeroAstro Centennial Webcast
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Musk will go down in history as one of the greatest thinkers and innovators of our time. I would take the guy seriously.
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“I don’t think anyone realizes how quickly artificial intelligence is advancing. Particularly if [the machine is] involved in recursive self-improvement . . . and its utility function is something that’s detrimental to humanity, then it will have a very bad effect,” said Musk.
“If its [function] is just something like getting rid of e-mail spam and it determines the best way of getting rid of spam is getting rid of humans . . . ” Musk trailed off, as the crowd laughed.... http://www.zengardner.com/artificial-intelligence-wipe-humanty-elon-musk/
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Is that AI or Elon's wife?
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Well, um, duh.
Anyone who watched 2001 A Space Oddesy, or Terminator, or WarGames way back in the 1980's probably got that drift. Q: Do his cars have Bluetooth connectivity integrated in Tesla products, just like the vehicles of Princess Diana and Michael Hastings? A: Yes. Q: Is he involved with Google self-driving cars? A: No. Elon Musk is promoting his own AI: Self-Driving Cars From Tesla In About 3 Years, Says CEO Elon Musk |
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He may be onto something.
Imagine a machine thinking and then making a decision based purely on logic. And then having the ability to act on that thinking. If a human goes "Postal" they can be stopped with force but a machine? There may be no way to stop them. The ultimate night mare would be nano machines or the Grey Cloud acting with AI.
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Asimov talked about this stuff, what, 50 years ago? iRobot.
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If we want to go way back...
The binary Abacus dates to 2700–2300 BC. Physical traps date before known history. The Antikythera Mechanism dates 150 to 100 BC, and was the first computer to output data based on input. |
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Demon?
Musk is more likely to summon a group of Luddites who will give him a country comeuppance.
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I loved the story of the computer correcting the angle of a beam to earth developing a religious complex. Edit: Over 70! iRobot was a compilation of stories written between 1940 and 1950.
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Oh, Lord.
 Elon Musk is a great marketer and is a real workaholic. Just ask his ex wife (wives?). But I would take anything he says about bleeding-edge technology or ethics with a grain of salt.
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One of my friends is an (ex)-Rocket Scientist. I asked her about working for Space-X. She said she could not afford to be that poor. The "perk" is eventually people still working there will get to ride the Dragon to the ISS.
But.... SpaceX Sued Over Layoffs | Los Angeles Business Journal Quote:
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I have a friend who works for a big satellite and launch systems manufacturer. He has supervised launches all over the planet. He told me the most terrifying thing he had ever seen was a SpaceX launch vehicle. Something about "criminally negligent lack of redundancy in critical systems". But I'm no rocket surgeon.
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Redundancy! phift! If it'll break once it'll break three times!!!
Actually Space X, while it prolly won't be the Ford of space travel has/will helped to inspire others to begin the quest. (Still think we should explore within instead of going out) |
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Existential insight from 50, 60 or 70 years ago is not ancient.
I can't claim to know very much about Musk or Asimov but ideas like theirs deserve to be considered of their own merit. The planet will continue to turn whether we are here or not. Seems better to consider things that might wreck the place. I think there are reasons that ideas films, books and movies become popular. I believe the reason is that someone saved the masses the trouble of imagining an idea, turning it into a story and then documented/executed it. That stuff gets popular when it appeals to peoples' subconscious...the part of people that sees and speaks possibilities and truth. Asimov and Musk don't appeal to everyone. But they did/do think---a lot---and have been able to turn those thoughts and ideas into stories and realities that are both appealing and scary. I'm a little tired of considering all of it now...Issac and Elon probably wouldn't be. |
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