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livi 10-31-2014 12:39 PM

Ah, the ancient male ape dilemma. What does a female want?!?

From a biological perspective its all got to do with enhancing and promoting a healthy sexuality in order to maximize the chance of a viable offspring. Such a crude view is today frown upon although it arguably still have a profound, although perhaps unintended, bearing on behavior patterns with the two genders.

How is a happy, friendly, smiling face and a few nice words received? With a feeling of being attractive, admired and perhaps romantically looked upon of course. How is being neglected or frowned upon received? With a significantly less positive feeling.

These are very simple, yet deeply rooted behavior mechanisms with a reciprocal effect.

Herein lies the paradox and the dilemma for the male ape. How to show appreciation toward a female that obviously want to feel appreciated and many times even go to some length to enhance the parts she wants to be appreciated for - without risk of being accused of harassment.

Oh well.

RANDY P 10-31-2014 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by livi (Post 8332745)
Ah, the ancient male ape dilemma. What does a female want?!?

From a biological perspective its all got to do with enhancing and promoting a healthy sexuality in order to maximize the chance of a viable offspring. Such a crude view is today frown upon although it arguably still have a profound, although perhaps unintended, bearing on behavior patterns with the two genders.

How is a happy, friendly, smiling face and a few nice words received? With a feeling of being attractive, admired and perhaps romantically looked upon of course. How is being neglected or frowned upon received? With a significantly less positive feeling.

These are very simple, yet deeply rooted behavior mechanisms with a reciprocal effect.

Herein lies the paradox and the dilemma for the male ape. How to show appreciation toward a female that obviously want to feel appreciated and many times even go to some length to enhance the parts she wants to be appreciated for - without risk of being accused of harassment.

Oh well.


Let her gain 50 LBS, then she'll be begging for attention.

rjp

Rot 911 10-31-2014 01:03 PM

Bottom line, she wanted attention. She got it.

BlueSkyJaunte 10-31-2014 01:09 PM

I really think we need to see a picture of her topless to know if the attention is "harrassment" or just complimentary.

Rot 911 10-31-2014 01:22 PM

"Oh those sexist pigs! Why do they keep looking at me?"

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1414790557.jpg

speeder 10-31-2014 01:25 PM

Just to be clear, I do not think that saying, "hello", to a stranger is harassment necessarily, but if someone says hello to every person who walks past in a crowded city would be considered autistic at the very least. None of the guys in this video are unnaturally friendly. They only get friendly when an unaccompanied young woman walks by. If she was with a strapping dude, suddenly they would all have perfect manners and mind their own fking business. It's a cowardly power play and that's why it irks me. They know damn well it's unwelcome, even these cretins can tell when a woman wants to interact with them.

And of course women like attention from men. Just not from random idiots they have to walk past on a city street. This ain't complicated.

onewhippedpuppy 10-31-2014 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 8332713)
News flash... some of us have to work/live in bad neighborhoods.

Do you film the behavior in said bad neighborhoods and extrapolate it to apply to everyone of the same race or gender? Because that's what she did.

M.D. Holloway 10-31-2014 04:16 PM

Even in my most drunken stupor I wouldn't catcall. Seriously, do these guys really think this will get them laid? Even a decent hooker will valudate the date...

Baz 10-31-2014 04:54 PM

Tell you what.

If women would stay off their damned cell phones while driving.....us men will stop saying hello when they walk by.

Deal?

john70t 10-31-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 8332617)
24M hits; that's some good monetization right there.

There's also a 'donate' link - how in the fook would money alleviate this perceived "injustice"?

Forget her hurt feelings, or social controversy,....
What is the return on 24M views?

Baz 10-31-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rot 911 (Post 8332802)
"Oh those sexist pigs! Why do they keep looking at me?"

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1414790557.jpg

Ha ha - perfect, Kurt! That should be in the video at the end. SmileWavy

TimT 10-31-2014 05:33 PM

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If she was in downtown Manhattan or Toronto she would likely not be harassed. The areas she was walking through were probably not the best.
I picked out some neighborhoods since I'm actually familiar with NYC.... seems her walk was comprised of strolls on avenues in Brooklyn and Manhattan, did not recognize any scenes from Staten Island, Queens or The Bronx..

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In what looks like a "blue collar" area of NYC.
Some of you show how little you know about NYC

She walked in some pretty exclusive areas... Soho.... home to some extremely pricey real estate...She walked in Nolita....she walked through Time Square in more than one scene...The real estate prices and money in some of those areas is astounding..Its crazy..

It looks like she started the walk in front of a Chilpotle across from what looks like the old Police Headquarters (which is now luxury condos) or it could have started across from the Mint....

The frames where you see Jimmy Jazz stores were shot probably on Flatbush Ave in Bed-Stuy... where if you bought a Brownstone in the late '80s for 70-100k you could now sell it for more than a million (or multi-million) , there was a second appearance of a Jimmy Jazz... in a sketchier area...Crown Heights maybe?...

She was also walking on 125th St in Harlem..

Harlem now has one of the hottest real estate markets in NYC... money is pouring in....granted it still has some sketchy areas...

She walked by a Heartland Brewery.... 3 locations in NYC....none in blue collar areas...

Interesting exercise...

onewhippedpuppy 10-31-2014 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rot 911 (Post 8332802)
"Oh those sexist pigs! Why do they keep looking at me?"

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1414790557.jpg

Damn you pigs for looking at my boobs that are so prominently displayed in front of you! Just another moderately attractive woman seeking attention. Nothing to see here, move along.....

Baz 10-31-2014 07:36 PM

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fintstone 10-31-2014 09:19 PM

The reason that so many guys acted like that...is because it has worked for them in the past...with women dressed and walking like that (maybe not quite as pretty). People usually don't use bait when they are not fishing. If it works once for most guys, they will try again until the day they die.

Conversely, I was in a meeting on Thursday with a woman who lowered her voice and told me..."you really look handsome today" then paused a second and said; "you don't mind that I said that, do you?" I said: "not really, I am flattered", I was not the least bit interested in the woman...and I suspect she was not interested in me, but it didn't bother me in the least. I have had it happen quite often when in a nice suit or a tux. It is much better than the alternative. Sure beats pity.

livi 10-31-2014 10:47 PM

Thank you all for your input. I find that the Swedish perspective is very similar to the American. :D

71scgc 11-01-2014 06:16 AM

I live in the south.
If you make eye contact with someone, you say "Hey".
To not do so would be considered rude, or you would be labeled as a yankee.
Here, her harassment is considered manners, and rightly so.

Carter (well mannered southron).

kach22i 11-01-2014 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 71scgc (Post 8333496)
I live in the south.
If you make eye contact with someone, you say "Hey".
To not do so would be considered rude, or you would be labeled as a yankee.
Here, her harassment is considered manners, and rightly so.

Carter (well mannered southron).

I've read that a Hijab/Burka works in some parts of the world.:cool:

speeder 11-01-2014 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71scgc (Post 8333496)
I live in the south.
If you make eye contact with someone, you say "Hey".
To not do so would be considered rude, or you would be labeled as a yankee.
Here, her harassment is considered manners, and rightly so.

Carter (well mannered southron).

And you seriously don't see any difference between small town/southern/whatever friendliness and leering at or bothering a young woman minding her own business with her head down walking? No difference between saying hello to strangers who meet your glance as you pass them and cat-calling women in NYC??

Why did I think you were smarter than this? :confused:

scottmandue 11-01-2014 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 8332866)
Do you film the behavior in said bad neighborhoods and extrapolate it to apply to everyone of the same race or gender? Because that's what she did.

No, because it would be pretty boring due to the fact that no one says boo to me when I walk through a "bad" neighborhood.

I am seriously disturbed by some of your attitudes and comments... "she was asking for it" :rolleyes: T-shirt and jeans=dressing like a hooker, you might want to check out your daughter when she is stepping out to high school, she is probably dressed a lot more provocatively.

And yes she is drawing attention and collecting money... for a charity to bring awareness to harassment... you boyz pretty much took the bait hook, line, and sinker.


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