How about that Shoshana Roberts
 

Beautiful, curvy actress Walking down the city street with hidden camera and, lo and behold, she gets a lot of comments from guys. The video goes viral on youtube as a warning example of the male primitive aggressive chauvinistic approach to women.

I am not really sure what to Think of it. What say the eminent pelican board?

Very sorry, could not make a link stick but just google or youtube her name. Easy to find.

It just reaffirms something that all women know - men are pigs. :D

Ian

I'd say it highlights a certain hypocrisy among men. I lived near a gay community in Chicago called Boystown and can tell you first hand - men on the receiving end of that sort of attention don't handle it well at all, even with less to fear than some tiny woman.

Constant, unwanted attention would be awful. I sympathise.

Sure, are there some that are rude, scary and over the line? Yep. Were a lot of them very mild and to me seemed unoffensive? Yep "Have a good day, miss", "how are you doing" and "hey, what's up girl." Hmm, are those an instances of harrassment? Do women really find that offensive? Or would it matter who was making the comment? OK, the guy may not say that to every woman, but just saying hello to someone attractive shouldn't be a problem. And I'm not defending it because I do it myself. I don't talk to people on the street attractive or not. At the same time, I suspect many women would be unhappy if they didn't get some of that. As men, we are often expected to be (by women) assertive.

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If she was in downtown Manhattan or Toronto she would likely not be harassed. The areas she was walking through were probably not the best. Any decent man or woman would not walk in dubious areas. Common sense. Probably done to get hits - video hits that is.
Guy.

This. Woman with an agenda makes a video to suit her agenda. Not a big shocker.

That about sums up my sentiment...

Since when are comments like the following considered to be harassing?
"How are you this morning"
"Have a nice evening"
"Hello good morning"
"God bless - have a good day"
"How you doing - good?"
"What's up miss?"
"How you doing?"
"Have a nice evening darling"

The end of the video states: "100+ instances of verbal street harassment took place within 10 hour..." While there were some inappropriate comments and some creepy folks there -- based on what I saw on the video, I'd say that the majority of the comments were harmless hellos, and not harassing.

Methinks this woman is a little full over herself and judges others - and categorizes everyone as being harassing even when they just say hello. Get over yourself lady...

What's next? This?
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A nice rack is both a blessing and a curse.

Most of those guys would probably the first to jump in and defend her were anything to happen.

I'm not a hot woman. So pure speculation here. I often hear ladies complain about cat calls. They have to like it at some level. What if it magically stopped? I think they would wonder what is wrong with them.

I once got cat called by a group of gay guys. I admit mixed feelings :). I was flattered. Haha. And happy I was working out with my hot female friend Maria. She said" flattery is flattery".

I don't see a beautiful woman, just some fat ass. I wouldn't give her the time of day. Some of the commits are overpowering, but I bet she loves it. Many of people were just saying hi and were polite about it. I'm sure there were many edits to this and any woman who said hello were cut out. I guess she just is a snob, who is full of herself, for no reason that I can see.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Yeah, it's a fairly disingenuous video.

Those are the spliced together "highlights" after walking the streets for TEN HOURS (show it in real time and see how uninteresting it would be).

In what looks like a "blue collar" area of NYC.

Wearing a very tight tee shirt.

And, most of the comments were not "harassing" at all, just plain "hellos" and "how are you".

Pretty weak.

Having a guy walk next to her and talk is a little alarming. She should have pepper sprayed him.

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Yep, this is why there are so many ugly, fat women today. They are just doing it to avoid the attention. Not to discriminate, the guys are the same way.

I saw most of the comments as welcoming some sort of interaction, the majority not being very courteous when taken in context and as a whole though.

For instance "there goes a thousand dollars" could be a reference to a prostitutes fee/value.

I bet there were many more flattering and friendly comments, but they did not make the editor's cut as they would not further the agenda being promoted here.

An acknowledgment of one's presence is often welcomed, and being treated as invisible is not.

I suppose much of the street commentary would depend on who is giving the attention. A well dressed and handsome man saying "well - hello there" would be expected to be more charming and acceptable than some guy with a backpack and tattered hip hop clothes saying "well - hello there".

Did she ever smile?

Thirty years from now I suspect this woman will miss some of the attention, certainly not all of it.

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I should note that on a recent Porsche fall color tour I found myself in a somewhat awkward situation. A mile down the road from the last p-car stop (a cider mill out in the country) is a truck stop/gas station mini-market (very rural/blue collar). My buddy and I used the toilet rooms and we walk out at the same time as these two young women, which are dressed way more fancy/upscale (and sexy?) than what normal cider mill apparel would require.

I sort of felt like I had to acknowledge their presence, to at least avoid dinging doors as they had parked next to us. I waited so they could open their doors first even though they exited the building after us.

I said something like; "where are you girls going all dressed up like that?" They looked over at me and they both hustled into their car like I had offended them.

I live in a college town where you can talk to complete strangers, be it in line at the coffee shop or just about anywhere. It applies to all ages, not just college folk.

How come everyone outside of a college town is so stuck up?

The posted video would had been a waste of time if filmed in a college town, you would just think she knew everyone or was invisible.

It's only unwanted attention because the guys don't look like Chris Hemsworth.
Change them all to wealthy guys with killer stubble, and she wouldn't be complaining.

I'll admit that I might be a bit cynical, but I think that women are just as hypocritical and sexist as men.

Just proves that hookers dress the way they do for a reason. Looks like she was in that kind of neighborhood. If she had dressed in a classy manner she might have been treated more respectfully, but may have received more smiles and polite greetings. Why would she classthe polite greetings she received as cat calls?

If you want to approach this from the perspective of having manners, no unwelcomed attention or remarks to a woman jus trying to walk down the street is ever acceptable. 99% of being a lady or a gentleman is just keeping your ****ing mouth shut.

IMO, of course.

Handsome young guys like you describe do not have to harass women on the street to get some play. It's a BS argument but a common one. Women hate this schit.

Sorry, are you suggesting that jeans and a t-shirt are somehow hooker attire?

Wow.

Yup. And I don't mind simple hellos and how are you's. I do that... To everybody. Male and female. But I have got to tell you, there are some major creeps out there. Just sayin'. I have plenty of stories. Even when I was dressed professionally and not just walking on the street. But not all men are creeps and not all women are gold diggers. ;)

In 1983, just off of downtown Lansing Michigan the house around the corner lived a group of women which the landlord proclaimed "always paid their rent on time".

Yes, some of them dress exactly like that and are about as average looking.

Meh, attention whore is successful in getting people to pay attention, edited film at 11, yawn.

24M hits; that's some good monetization right there.

There's also a 'donate' link - how in the fook would money alleviate this perceived "injustice"?

Hmm - so a video of her walking the streets was meant to be a money generating stunt? Does that mean she's a professional streetwalker? :eek:

Hm.. OK. It would seem that a rough summary of your evaluations in two words would go something like: Hypocritical entrapment.

There it is.

For the win!

You guys putting her down, picture the lady in the video as your wife or daughter... now how do you feel?

My wife would not go to such extremes to prove a point, especially if she doesn't have sufficient evidence to prove her point. She most certainly NOT consdier someone saying "Hello - good morning" as street harassment.

Granted, there was some cat calling and creepy folks in the video, but much of what was filmed was, IMHO, not harassing at all., I would just LOVE to see her attempt to have someone arrested on the grounds of "street harassment" for merely saying hello to her. Yeah. Let me know how that works out for ya...

As for the fellow who was walking beside her for 5 minutes - if she would have said "stop following me" 30 seconds into their joint walk, it would have been over and done. But then she would not have been able to "prove" her point.

And frankly, I have never heard the expression "street harassment" until this video.
-Z-man.

Wait. I am sensing a growing opinion to the contrary. The gentleman perspective is gaining momentum. :)

She's very well aware of that.

Which is why she carefully chose the neighborhoods to walk through for 10 hours.

She didn't film this while walking around the Guggenheim or NY Metro Museum (or even Central Park), on purpose and for good reason.

Maybe her next film will be while walking down the corridors of the Men's Prison.

News flash... some of us have to work/live in bad neighborhoods.

It is stretching the facts to call "Hello" harassment.

I guess I have been unknowingly harassed and been harassing both men and women for many years. I just thought it was being friendly.

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A gentleman saying hello to, or complimenting the appearance of a young woman would not be out of line at all, but would have been included as "street harassment" If I were to hold the door open for her, same deal, harassment.
News flash...she does not.

yep. She can also be born a COMPLETE hag- then she'd be doing videos about "fat shaming" or "ugly shaming". Given a choice I'm sure anyone would rather be born attractive than ugly, count your blessngs.

Just can't win with that crowd- wish they'd give the ROW a break concerning their problems, tired of all this "social justice" crap. Everyone gets beat on, everyone.

rjp