2 Phone Guy

[widebody911]

Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte

Work and personal. Work offered to let me BYOD my personal - and I thought about it until I saw the spyware crap they install. No effing way am I letting our filthy IT department even get near my phone.

Same here. In order to connect to the corporate network they require you to install a 3rd-party package that gives them all sorts of permissions I don't think they need: ablity to make calls, use the camera and wireless, capture data usage, remote lock, remote wipe, app/patch install, remote control, and probably others they don't even tell you about. And they use an SAP product to manage all this, so hell the f--- no. If they're paying for the device, they can do whatever they want, but I'm not going to pay the bills but let them control it.

[Rick Lee]

I have a budd who kept his whole life on the BB his company issued him. It was his only phone and he really had everything on it - band stuff, photos, vms from his daughter when she learned to talk, huge address book, everything. He blew it off when he got let go and just ignored the company's demands that he return the phone. One day they wiped it clean remotely. He was pretty stunned, but he pretty much asked for it. When I knew my last job was ending, I copied everything from my BB and laptop to my personal devices well in advance.

[Scuba Steve]

I have my work + personal phone, same as a lot of others. My ipod touch also comes along every day. It handles podcasts much better than my Nexus does, and has over double the storage capacity.

[cashflyer]

Lots of reasons, but I think work related is most common.
My neighbor carries two: one from his employer (work) and one of his own (personal)
My business partner carries two: One with a US number, and one with a Kuwait number, because those are our two main operation locations.
One of our department chiefs carries two: One with a US number and one with a KSA number. He is the manager of our KSA base, but his family all live in the US.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

He blew it off when he got let go and just ignored the company's demands that he return the phone. One day they wiped it clean remotely. He was pretty stunned, but he pretty much asked for it.

Was he fired for low IQ? Good grief, what did he think would happen?

[Z-man]

I have two phones - iPhone 5S (personal) and a Nokia Windows phone (Work). They do offer a BYOD option, where I can use the Good app as a secure portal on my iPhone to connect to work for text, email, and phone.

While I would like to consolidate down to one phone (my personal phone with the Good app), at this point, they do not offer a reimbursement for using my personal phone's data, and from the company perspective, the licensing for the Good app is nearly the same an issuing the Nokia phone, so if they offer a reimbursement for using my personal phone, it would cost the company more.

So until they figure out the finances, I am essentially stuck with two phones. And I prefer to keep personal and work stuff separated, so that's why I don't only use a work mobile phone...

-Z

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte

Was he fired for low IQ? Good grief, what did he think would happen?

To be totally fair, he wasn't right in the head in those days, had been in the hospital for a month for a stomach ailment, came out of it with depression, his wife left him and things weren't going well. But, yeah, it was avoidable.

[legion]

Originally Posted by VaSteve

I have my android phone and the iPhone work gave me. I don't carry the work phone after hours or weekends. So what?

Originally Posted by stealthn

Because companies can get their BYOD grip together even though they have the tools such as MobileIron...

Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte

Work and personal. Work offered to let me BYOD my personal - and I thought about it until I saw the spyware crap they install. No effing way am I letting our filthy IT department even get near my phone.

So, I carry a Galaxy S4 that they gave me at work (phone, pages, and for fast answers to email) and a OnePlus One for myself. I treat the Galaxy like ****.

Originally Posted by osidak

I carry a work phone and a personal phone - I like to keep my work calls and my personal calls separated - Also the company reserves the right to wipe the device if I bring my own device.

These pretty much sums it up for me. I could BYOD, but they wouldn't kick in for my bill, and it would get more expensive (I am a minimum-usage kind of guy, and pay $35 a month for TWO smart phones). Also, I wouldn't be able to toss my work phone in a drawer or leave it at home on vacation.

As I am no longer on call with my new job, I'm back to being a one-phone guy.

[nostatic]

My work has limited access to my phone, but it does have my work exchange account on it. I've been seriously thinking of getting a second phone and relegating one phone to be just work and the other to not having any work-related stuff on it at all. Problem is the two do bleed over, and my calendar is my calendar - I need to know when everything is happening so I can plan accordingly. I have removed any work accounts from my studio computer and iPad.

Problem with 2 phones though is that you sometimes have to carry two phone. Easy enough to forward calls I suppose - but 2/3 of the time I'm texting rather than calling people.

[Seahawk]

My wife has two phones, a government Blackberry and her own iPhone: Never shall the twain meet. The restrictions the government puts on the personal use of electronic devices is prohibitive and she cannot do any official emails (or texting) on her iPhone. She can use her iPhone to discuss government related work.

I have four email addresses on my iphone...and keep all calendar inputs on the one calendar. I'm not smart enough for multiple calendars

[nostatic]

The one good thing is that I can keep the exchange account active but turn email on and off - so I still have my work calendar (along with personal calendar entries) but don't have anything coming to the inbox. Then I can switch it back on come Monday. I think that will be my solution as carrying multiple devices is just too much...

[BlueSkyJaunte]

I got 477 work-related emails over the break. I'm really glad it isn't my data plan being used for that.

[spuggy]

Originally Posted by motion

Used to carry 4 phones a few years ago... why can't I buy a multi-sim iPone??

You can - in Asia. Very common there - any of the $50 Chandroids come with two SIM slots, pretty much.

Even the big phone makers sell dual-SIM phones for that market. There's just not enough of you demanding it in the US...

Or there are dual SIM kits where you cut down standard SIMs to nano or micro SIM size and use two. But there is additional funkiness around firmware/OS support.

But good luck doing that with a closed-ecosystem phone like the Apple...

Grrrrr...... how hard can it be to have multiple numbers on one phone? Sheesh.

It's very easy. The phone in front on me right now will answer or make calls on any of 5 phone #'s. 4 are SIP DID's, and the actual SIM # (which I regard as disposable & don't give out/use).

A DID is about $1 a month, most come with bundled minutes in that. Actual "pure" SIP (e.g. no DID, so no traversing POTS networks) calls are pretty much just data - e.g. WiFi/2G/3G/4G.

Any Android phone after about 3.x has a SIP dialer built-in - but even the most recent 4.x builds like KitKat don't include STUN support. So they won't work properly when NAT'd (call connects, but no audio, usually). Easiest solution is CSIPsimple, a free Android app which has STUN.

Oh yeh - and I can make/receive phone calls on free WiFi (e.g. airport) in another country before I pick up a local SIM too.


The other issues folks are referencing (spyware/remote wipe, mixing business/proprietary/sensitive information and/or email/calendars) are harder to solve. But just actual phone calls? That's been sorted for a long time...