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The rates of non-vaccination in CA schools is shockingly, to me, high. And growing. And CA has a higher than average vasccination rate among the states.
California’s epidemic of vaccine denial, mapped - The Washington Post
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How'd they travel that far? Believe me, I've played Oregon Trail and there's a lot of bad stuff that can happen along the way!
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To Protect His Son, A Father Asks School To Bar Unvaccinated Children
There's a perspective not often shared. Some kids are unable to be vaccinated. Now this cancer survivor is at risk because parents are exempting their kids from the vaccine.
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It is sad that many are so quick to avoid the facts if they could possible be construed as racist. That seems to be the go-to argument when an absolutely insane policy (like letting unscreened folks enter the country at will). It really doesn't matter if they are from Mexico, China, or Ireland. Calling it racism is just a silly, knee-jerk argument to prevent any real adult conversation on the topic.
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While the poor vaccination rate is a serious issue, diseases essentially eradicated in this country would not be a problem if we didn't import those diseases from abroad.
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Yes (when we allow unscreened immigrants into our communities). We screen those who enter legally.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/6/diseases-still-problem-illegal-immigrant-families/?page=all
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You guys better start carrying yer guns, never know when some illegal is gonna give you measles.
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...or mumps, TB, Polio, tuberculosis, chicken pox, dengue fever, swine flu, Enterovirus 68, etc.
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Measles case reported Chicago suburb-
Question: Whom did this person catch it from, and the person before him? Illinois reports year's first measles case - Arlington Heights
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The last case of indigenous measles was in 2002, all cases since then have been imported by people traveling to foreign countries and returning as carriers, or foreigners arriving (either legally or illegally) as carriers. In nearly every case of an outbreak, the carriers had not been vaccinated or never had immunity through contracting the disease. A small percentage of cases were found in persons who were vaccinated as the vaccine is not 100% effective in all people. In every outbreak, the spread was epidemic among the population that was not vaccinated, for whatever reasons--religious, moral, ignorance, or lack of medical care. The largest outbreaks prior to the current one, was within domestic communities who chose not to vaccinate, not foreign immigrant communities.
In most cases, the immigrant communities (illegal or otherwise) were protected by the surrounding vaccinated populations, as long as that population maintained a low percentage of non-vaccinated individuals (~<8%.) If measles broke out in the immigrant community, it stayed within that population. This is not a racist epidemic. The disease is imported by legals and illegals alike, and even by people who have been vaccinated, and has been since its "eradication" in 2002. The only reason it's a concern is because the domestic (legal, if you will) population has been steadily reducing the number of people getting vaccinated. The herd immunity that protects us all has been weakened. Are illegal immigrants a source of infection? Yes. Are U.S. citizens traveling abroad a source? Yes. Are these groups responsible for introducing the disease to the U.S.? Yes. Are they responsible for the wide spread transmission of the disease? No. That is the responsibility of those who opted not to protect themselves, their children, and their neighbors by refusing to get vaccinated.
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Great post, L.J. It pretty much mirrors what I've been reading about on this topic.
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Well reasoned and presented thoughts!! What next, apologies in PARF??
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Now that measles have spread across the nation and there are over 100 cases in 14 states...it seems that vaccinated adults do not always enjoy complete protection.
https://fortune.com/2015/01/30/measles-outbreak-vaccinated-adult/
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