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Old 02-02-2015, 10:14 AM
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It was 2nd and less than a yard, Lynch had just picked up about 3 or 4 on first down, 1 timeout remaining, You pound Lynch up the middle twice from less than a yard and 9 times out of ten I think he gets in. I could be wrong but he's a power back built for that type of run. I'd have ran him twice. But hey! I'm not an NFL OC and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night so I do have those two things going against me.
You have three downs and one timeout. The play calling should be obvious.

Second down and 1. Lynch. Call timeout if it fails.
Third down and 1. Pass. If incomplete, clock stops.
Fourth and 1. Lynch.

Geez....
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You have three downs and one timeout. The play calling should be obvious.

Second down and 1. Lynch. Call timeout if it fails.
Third down and 1. Pass. If incomplete, clock stops.
Fourth and 1. Lynch.

Geez....
Uh yea. And pass into an area that will be incomplete or a TD. Not into a mass of bodies than can intercept, deflect, etc. And on top of that it's a rub play they've been running all game.

The way they lined up I thought Wilson was going to run the ball. That would have been a better call.

Any high school coach could have/would have done better. Worst call ever.

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This article tells the story pretty well....

Malcolm Butler deserves credit for an unbelievable play. | SportsonEarth.com : Sheil Kapadia Article
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I've seen some incredibly dull, predictable Super Bowls. This was not.

For me to say I could call the last play better means that I'd have to be able to meet or beat all other play calls. Can't just walk in on one. Have to take responsibility for them all. I can't.

With injuries plaguing the defense, they seemed to play catch-up all game, stopping further yardage on completed passes--but not stopping/preventing the passes in the first place.

Would rather have seen a different outcome. But it was a darn good game.
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Something funny to me is that the importance of that off sides call at the end didn't strike me until I read something about it here this morning. I didn't realize if Brady took a knee it was a safety. Wow! terrible time for an off sides penalty.
Exactly. Encroachment was the worst possible thing the Seahawks could have done at that point. That was the nail on the coffin--and they did it to themselves(or, at least we're baited into it by Brady's hard snap count). Take the safety Brady's giving to you, draw within 2 points, and then get the ball punted back to you. Then even a FG would win the game for you. Improbable, but possible. But an encroachment penalty gives the Pats the ball at the 6 yard line, and allows Brady to take a knee safely to end the game.

That was brilliant sneakiness by the Pats at the end to get the Seahawks to jump offsides. Took all the risk out of the end. (And somewhat ironic, as a safety is what the Pats **should** have done 2 weeks earlier at the end of their game against the Ravens to seal the win in a near risk-free manner instead of punting from their own endzone with 7 seconds to go.)

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If Brady wants to do the right thing, he will take the keys of that new, bright red Chevy Colorado he was given for being named MVP and give them to Malcolm Butler. I presume Butler is probably being paid NFL minimum and I seriously doubt Brady really needs a pickup... and he can certainly afford to buy any pickup made.
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Funny that's what I said immediately after they awarded it to him during the MVP celebration. Brady has everything he could want in life including a multimillion dollar, multi-year deal. Butler is just a kid out of western Alabama who was an undrafted free agent so I'm sure he's doing okay but isn't exactly raking in the big bucks. Yes he's an NFL player and I'm sure he's doing okay, but just okay. He could probably use that truck a bit more than Brady.

The Starbucks picture is HILARIOUS! Comedic genius whoever came up with it! Ditto the auto-correct.

I still wonder if the plan really was to take the safety and kick it back to Seattle - I tend to think not. Give it to Brady for a quick short run or (more likely) a short drop pass. He'd been nailing those the whole second half and was on fire with them AND they're his staple anyway. I think the Pats would've gotten out of the end zone okay but obviously they were looking for one of Seattle's young, testosterone-juiced hotheads to jump and predictably, they did. Good call on Brady / Bellichick's part. Gave them more options.

I believe NE still had two timeouts and the decision by Bellichick to NOT use one was brilliant. A huge vote of confidence to his defense (he's always been a good defensive coach) and it paid dividends. Of course if it hadn't he's in a bad situation with very little clock time left, down by three (or four if Seattle went for two and got it - my suspicion is they would have) and about 20 seconds to get it down field. Tall order, even for Brady who is well-known for such "hurry up" drives and does them better than anyone else.

Hell of a game. I'm not disappointed to see some of the particular arrogant, classless and thug-like Seahawks players get a slice of humble pie to eat. Who knows, maybe it'll help them develop a little bit of class as they struggle with it emotionally (but more likely they'll go on angry rages and beat up their girlfriends or whatever knowing some of those guys...).

Who the heck was the woman who performed with Katie Perry about halfway through her performance? She was downright awful. That "music" sucked ass. KP's performance otherwise I thought was great and it's always cool to see Lenny Kravitz!
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Who the heck was the woman who performed with Katie Perry about halfway through her performance? She was downright awful. That "music" sucked ass. KP's performance otherwise I thought was great and it's always cool to see Lenny Kravitz!
That woman was Missy Elliot.
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If Brady wants to do the right thing, he will take the keys of that new, bright red Chevy Colorado he was given for being named MVP and give them to Malcolm Butler. I presume Butler is probably being paid NFL minimum and I seriously doubt Brady really needs a pickup... and he can certainly afford to buy any pickup made.
Reports are saying Brady has in fact given the truck to Butler.
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I still wonder if the plan really was to take the safety and kick it back to Seattle - I tend to think not.
I don't think the plan was to take the safety either. I'd bet Brady was going to run a sneak, if he couldn't draw them offsides, after the delay of game penalty (whats another 3 inches). If he gets forward, great they win the game, if he gets pushed back, well there's the safety and they already had a plan in place for that. The only risk would be a fumble on the attempt and Brady is one of the top if not the #1 at QB sneaks so it was unlikely.
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Something funny to me is that the importance of that off sides call at the end didn't strike me until I read something about it here this morning. I didn't realize if Brady took a knee it was a safety. Wow! terrible time for an off sides penalty.
This is an example of the value of a well-coached, disciplined team. Let Brady come at you if he can, don't get overexcited and do something stupid. The Hawks still had a prayer until that offside.
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I still wonder if the plan really was to take the safety and kick it back to Seattle - I tend to think not.
Ohh, a safety would have been bad. My money was on Pat's -2. A safety would have been bad bad very bad.
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