Lunatic Mother crosses the line (long)

[911SauCy]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Are there any options to have her checked into a psychiatric facility for evaluation? Obviously against her will. I would be concerned about the potential of her hurting herself or someone else.

According to this worthless psych she sees, it has to be voluntary. Like everyone in the nut-house isn't crazy and prisoners are innocent...that'll never happen. She has to prove threatening to have her "taken"

We are concerned.

[sc_rufctr]

I have nothing to offer but my condolences.

Take care.

[911SauCy]

Originally Posted by craigster59

I'd see about getting Dad to seek counseling. He'll be the one dealing with her after everyone else has "cut her loose".

He is, per mom insisting he was the problem and needed it, and is now using his woman to work through the situation. She actually helped him see it coming (because apparently what I/other family says means nothing) Really, he's floatin' down the river, D-Nile, and it's headed for a deadly waterfall.

[Evans, Marv]

What Matt said. Now is probably the best time top take action to get help.

[masraum]

Yep, sounds like it's time to look into having her commited to protect herself and everyone else.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by 911SauCy

Symptoms started about 3 days ago and were kicked into hyper-drive yesterday. She is convinced she's being followed, her phone is bugged, her psychologist's office is bugged, people have been stealing things from her, my dad is cheating on her/living a double life, (trying to prove this to him with random internet searches of people with his same name) .......

My Step dads mom exhibited those EXACT same symptoms before an eventual Alzheimer's diagnosis.

The daughter had a duplex. Mom had her own apartment upstairs.

She started coming down for showers claiming hers was not working but would not let anyone in to check it. Daughter took her shopping one day and the kids went upstairs to find the bathroom filled with garbage.

She had been sneaking out in the middle of the night and bringing the daughters trash back in because she thought they daughter was stealing from her.

His mom was divorced from dad, they were Sicilian, mom was convinced her x wanted her whacked and insisted she was being followed.

She was staying with us one weekend and on the way home from picking her up step dad had to stop in the office to get some stuff. His mom insisted one of the cars in the parking lot was the one that had been following her, same plate number and everything.

Car belonged to step dads assistant.

Up till that point she was still highly functional and did not exhibit some of the other symptoms associated with Alzheimer's but that did not last long.

Good luck.

[quicksix]

Give Adult protective services a call.. they may be able to help (5150) or they can point you in the direction of resources.
Good luck and protect yourselves.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

My Step dads mom exhibited those EXACT same symptoms before an eventual Alzheimer's diagnosis.

My father had a few paranoid episodes as well before his dementia fully kicked in.
These did not involve the conniving and manipulation.
Got a late night call from his wife, and found him wrapped around a pole convinced the ceiling was going to cave in.

"Sundowner's Syndrome" is a classic sign of it.
The sun goes down and then all mental function goes out the window.

Saucy, you can't handle this alone. It's too hard.
There are too many traditional roles built up and she will always be the mom in charge.
You need advice from Alzeimers institute etc, and have husband/siblings/doctor/all on the same page.
The aggression is hard to deal with, and my sympathy, but remember some or much of it is a symptom of disease and not her own voice.

[Scuba Steve]

I agree, this is starting to look REALLY bad. If at all possible I'd start researching ways to have her committed or the risk of her inadvertently doing something to hurt herself or others starts going way up at this point. It sounds like she's not acting very much upon all this insanity... yet.

[911SauCy]

Originally Posted by john70t

Saucy, you can't handle this alone. It's too hard.
There are too many traditional roles built up and she will always be the mom in charge.
You need advice from Alzeimers institute etc, and have husband/siblings/doctor/all on the same page.
The aggression is hard to deal with, and my sympathy, but remember some or much of it is a symptom of disease and not her own voice.

I totally understand that. I spoke with the psychologist, who after further research is not even a psychologist, but a Lic. Clin. Soc. Worker. I think this woman is going to be a big part of the battle as my mom has her convinced of very strange things that are not true, despite her claiming trying her hardest to remain objective.

FWIW, The last couple years I've been telling family members that my mother has been exhibiting Alzheimer's and Dementia symptoms. It's not hard to read and cross reference, but nobody wanted to hear it.

I understand that as this new person is not my mother. She may have done/said bad things over time, but this is really bad and truly not comparable to anything prior.

[911SauCy]

Originally Posted by Scuba Steve

I agree, this is starting to look REALLY bad. If at all possible I'd start researching ways to have her committed or the risk of her inadvertently doing something to hurt herself or others starts going way up at this point. It sounds like she's not acting very much upon all this insanity... yet.

Wife and I did some homework, we'll see what the LCSW has to say as her and my Dad met at lunch to devise a plan of approach. Depending on that plan, we can also go to the local court and take legal action claiming her issues, and the law will intervene to make her get evaluated.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Best of luck to you.

[Hydrocket]

PM Sent.

[Crowbob]

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[wayner]

Dimensia is a tricky thing. A relative had it and she would suddenly shout that she was being held against her will by "this man" and wanted to go home.

The man would walk her out of the apartment to the elevator, get on and back off the elevator and bring her back to her apartment. Then, once back there (finally home) "this man" would suddenly turn out to be her husband and they would be happy together for the rest of the evening.

Before the man knew what was going on, it was hell, but once he had it figured out he created this new routine that worked for a while before she eventually had to go to a home.