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Tesla overreaching?

Tesla seems to have an overreaching legal department.

A couple weeks ago, it was reported that Tesla is requiring Tesla owners clubs to participate in lobbying for the company. Tesla enlists owners' clubs to be lobbying army; insists on it, in fact

Now it appears that Tesla is quietly fixing suspension problems while requiring owners to sign agreements to keep the failures secret. Tesla denies suspension issue and accuses blogger of lying | Ars Technica

What executive in the company thinks this sort of thing is a good idea?

I think that if I hand over $90,000 for a car, the company should be doing things for me, not trying to force me to do things for it.

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Elon Musk. In his mind, the world owes him something just because he exists.
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Business starts out as a massive scam, sanctioned by the government, why would it not think it can behave like the government?
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You don't have to do anything if you aren't a sanctioned club. I don't have a problem with it at all. If you want to be a Tesla sanctioned car club, you have to be on Tesla's side. Who wouldn't expect that?
I don't get all this hatred for Tesla. The guy is the quintessential American success story. I'm glad he's not just sitting on a yacht smoking cigars.
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Any of you haters want to go to Mars in 2025?
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Is Tesla offering that trip?
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Elon Musk: SpaceX wants to send people to Mars by 2025 - Jan. 30, 2016
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Any of you haters want to go to Mars in 2025?
Hell NO.

That is a place for machines, not man.

altho' I can think of some politicians who should go there.
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Business starts out as a massive scam, sanctioned by the government, why would it not think it can behave like the government?
This.
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After reading the alleged details of the suspension issue it appears to me that Tesla was not out of line.

Out of warranty, possibly 'abused', they pitch in 50% on the condition that the guy doesn't keep *****ing publicly about an issue that may not even be Tesla's fault. Does not seem unreasonable to me.
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Any of you haters want to go to Mars in 2025?
No.
Are we going to be FORCED to pay for others to go? That's the tesla way ....
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I guess I'm the only owner here, I bought a Model S for my mother-in-law and it's a complete piece of s**t. Here is a picture of us dropping it off for the umpteenth time this year.



You can check the coordinates and time on the picture to validate it. They have an entire row of "dead" cars at the "ranger" shop that need HUGE batteries shipped from California. Along with every other problem you can imagine from door handles to sunroofs that rain on you.

If you have ONE ounce of intelligence you'll not give this shyster a penny.
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Why would you buy your MIL a Tesla when you're constantly spewing Tesla is dead /will die here on PPOT? Don't you like her?
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I guess I'm the only owner here, I bought a Model S for my mother-in-law and it's a complete piece of s**t. Here is a picture of us dropping it off for the umpteenth time this year.

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You can check the coordinates and time on the picture to validate it. They have an entire row of "dead" cars at the "ranger" shop that need HUGE batteries shipped from California. Along with every other problem you can imagine from door handles to sunroofs that rain on you.

If you have ONE ounce of intelligence you'll not give this shyster a penny.
Recently I saw one IRL. Fantastic looking car.

I'm really saddened to read this.
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Are we going to be FORCED to pay for others to go? That's the tesla way ....
That's the American way. We didn't get to the moon on the proceeds from bake sales.
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Paying for the moon exploration is a long way from funding Musk's car factories.
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I can't for the life of me, understand why everyone licks this guy's nuts like he's some kind of God.


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It's called Virtue Signaling; and has been a snow-balling trend of the last decade, or so.

People want to signal that they too think that the idea of a future with free-power cars and easy trips to Mars exists; so they rail against the non-emotional pragmatists (those whom aren't impressed) to display their superior virtue.

BTW, I'm all for Matt Damon going to Mars for real. I think that dose of reality would be awesome. --I should make some colorful wristbands for the cause. ...maybe even a ribbon. Perhaps, some sort of overlay for Faceplant avatars.
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I can't for the life of me, understand why everyone licks this guy's nuts like he's some kind of God.
??? Haven't you been reading this board?
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It's called Virtue Signaling; and has been a snow-balling trend of the last decade, or so.

People want to signal that they too think that the idea of a future with free-power cars and easy trips to Mars exists; so they rail against the non-emotional pragmatists (those whom aren't impressed) to display their superior virtue.
Don't leave out ridiculous ideas like reusable rockets.

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