Long spoon conversions using an ACP or Glock

Joe Bob · Joe Bob's Garage

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My brother knows I like to tinker....not so sure about this, though.

All you need is a little out of alignment and ka-boom.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

Careful with that stuff. I think you're treading on NFA territory.

Bill Douglas · 05-26-2015, 09:39 PM

I wonder how it goes with a Glock 18.

Rick V · 05-27-2015, 02:19 AM

Wouldn't it be easier to just buy a carbine?

HardDrive · 05-27-2015, 03:31 AM

A solution in search of a problem IMHO.

Jeff Higgins · 05-27-2015, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive

A solution in search of a problem IMHO.

It won't have to look very hard...

Rick is right, these conversions are on very shaky ground with the NFA. Essentially, if it starts life as a pistol, it must remain a pistol. If it starts life as a rifle, it must remain a rifle. That's how I understand it, but I have admittedly not dug all that deep into it, having no interest in this kind of nonsense. If I want a rifle, or a carbine, or a shotgun, or a pistol, or a revolver... I buy one. Plenty to choose from without the need to resort to this.

BlueSkyJaunte · 05-27-2015, 03:44 PM

There are no NFA issues with this upper. You may have local legal issues, but there are no federal restrictions.

That said, I disagree with the article on whether it's a worthwhile purchase. I bought one on a lark. It wasn't useful for me. But then I live in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, where I can own pretty much whatever I damned well please. There's no reason for this thing when I can build a lighter weight AR in the same caliber.

Gear/Gun Review: MechTech Carbine Conversion Unit -- TTAG

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In this case it is legal to convert your pistol into a rifle configuration and then back into a pistol configuration. The BATFE ruled:

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Held further, a firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(3) and (a)(4), is not made
when a pistol is attached to a part or parts designed to convert the pistol into a rifle with a
barrel of 16 inches or more in length, and the parts are later unassembled in a configuration
not regulated under the NFA (e.g., as a pistol).

While it’s specifically illegal to turn a rifle into a pistol, in the case of the CCU the “firearm” part of the system is a pistol and was manufactured as a pistol. Connecting it to the CCU isn’t altering the design of the pistol itself at all, it’s only temporarily switching to rifle configuration via an attachment. No permanent change or redesign is made. ATF ruling is here and further explanation is on MechTech’s forum here.

Joe Bob · Joe Bob's Garage

I just don't see the advantage.....was wondering if anyone else did. Except for the gee whiz factor. Cheap subsonic ammo and you could tap and bootleg a suppressor?

This one, which used a revolver and now a rarity. Is worth big bucks. Used to flame the face of the shooter out the sides of the cylinder. Most tossed the butt plate and sawed down the long barrel and used it as a hogleg.

HHI944 · 05-27-2015, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

It won't have to look very hard...

Rick is right, these conversions are on very shaky ground with the NFA. Essentially, if it starts life as a pistol, it must remain a pistol. If it starts life as a rifle, it must remain a rifle. That's how I understand it, but I have admittedly not dug all that deep into it, having no interest in this kind of nonsense. If I want a rifle, or a carbine, or a shotgun, or a pistol, or a revolver... I buy one. Plenty to choose from without the need to resort to this.

The last ruling I saw stated that a firearm could go from pistol to rifle and back as many times as you want as long as there's no way for it to fire from the shoulder with a sub-16" barrel.

Even then, a $200 tax and 2 months of waiting.....boom.....you're awesome little glock is now an SBR and short of making it select fire, you can go friggin nuts with stock and barrel choices.

Jeff Higgins · 05-27-2015, 05:14 PM

Thanks for the correction, guys. Shows you what I know.

Like I said, though, I still see no real reason to do this, what with all of the great firearms we enjoy today. Maybe for the shooter who has everything.

BlueSkyJaunte · 05-27-2015, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

Like I said, though, I still see no real reason to do this, what with all of the great firearms we enjoy today. Maybe for the shooter who has everything.

I think you're more likely to find this in the "collection" of the guy who has one beat-up Glock and can't afford a rifle...or the ammo to feed it.

I look at these things as appealing more to the Hi-Point set than anyone else.

GWN7 · 07:41 PM

Kel-Tec makes a folding rifle in 9mm that fits the Glock mags. The only advantage to this is the rifle fps is higher than the pistol fps speed.

My kid has one. Fits in his backpack when he rides his bike.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/sub-2000/rifle/