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the SCAM, nigerian scams hope to be.

i've been reading about "seed faith" evangelism. just how gullible are the most gullible?

i read about a lady that died of cancer because some evangelist told her to send the money..opps sorry..not money. "seed" to them so that they may plant..err, not plant. "sow" the mo... (damn!) "seed" and she will be blessed by a cure. she died. died broke. they bled her dry.

i saw a video where some guy said, (paraphrasing here):

"i feel out there is an individual. this individual is worried about their credit card debt. well, i am here to tell you there is a way out. you have to have faith!! faith i tell you! (in the back ground..you hear.."halleluyah!), if you send me your seed, i will sow it for you and it will come back to you TEN FOLD!! TEN FOLD!! to the blessed! (halleuyah!")..take the money you have left..send it to me! you can even trust in faith enough to even charge more on that very same devil cursed credit card to show the demon you are not afraid..." (<------okay, i got swept up in the spirit and started making things up..unlike the evangelist)

how is this even legal??!!! and this stuff is TAX EXEMPT!! they are buying jets and stuff. tax free.

i wish we could reach out and smite down thy deceitful punkassthieves.

i am ashamed of how greedy these people are, and how gullible the weak are..i guess if you are missing something in you life, you seek out these con people. i hate the cons..Nigerian scamartist are rookies..this stuff is legal.

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Old 08-19-2015, 07:25 AM
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1440 minutes in a day...... a sucker born every minute...... and to quote eli wallach's character, calvera from "the magnificent seven" ........
"If God didn't want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep."


this does not mean that the charlatans and thieves should not be held fully accountable.
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The video is 20 minutes, but worth the time to watch.

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^^love that guy.

and that is the EXACT video that got me reading about it...hahah funny but sad.
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If you go to some of the best neighborhoods the biggest houses with the best lots are owned by the evangelists and preachers.

My uncle was a Methodist minister and he lived in many different church parishes usually right next door to the church. None were mansions, they were all modest but comfortable houses. He went to hospitals and also visited the shut-in on a daily basis. He did not die a rich man in monetary assets but he was rich with good friends and he touched a lot of lives and mad the world a better place.

The opposite of the scum bags in the video above.
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Can't help it, but I tend to believe good 'ole Karl for this one, "Religion is the opium of the people."
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These guys are charlatans. They have been called out on it too, by John MacArthur, but America is a free country.

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All you have to do is share a pic of money on Faceplant and then The Almighty gives you money.

Don't forget to type "Amen". Apparently, the big one doesn't hear you unless you say that.
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When people ask me, “What’s the biggest problem in the church?” I always say the same thing: The absence of discernment. That is the biggest problem in the church because if you can’t discern the truth with the Word of God in your hand, with the Bible in your hand, if you can’t discern the truth, you can die of 1,000 heresies. It’s like having spiritual AIDS. People who have a deficient immune system can die of 1,000 illnesses. The church can die of 1,000 heresies if it can’t exercise discernment. This is always the issue.

And part of the responsibility of ministry is the positive side to instruct with great patience, as Paul said to Timothy. But the other side is to reprove, rebuke, and exhort, and use the Word of God to do that. And to exercise discernment is at the very heart of Christian living because Christian living is a reflection of Christian thinking, and Christian thinking must be attached to sound doctrine, and that’s where discernment begins.

It is very evident that a massive part of professing Christianity lacks discernment. And so the effort in this conference these days and with my dear friends who are going to be sharing in opening the Word of God to you and speaking to you is to help you to be discerning. We know there are people who are in this movement who are deceivers, and they know they’re deceivers. They’re false teachers, and they know they’re false teachers. They’re in it for the money, and they know they’re in it for the money.
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Why do people STILL support these thieves? Are they really that lost that they will believe sending money will somehow save them?
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same reason that reality tv is so popular ........... weak-minded simpletons.

those who prey on those who pray.... there should be a really special place in hell for them.

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It always amazes me how upset non-Christians get when someone gives money to a church or ministry.
I doubt you care about the people because the people are happy so it must be jealousy.

BTW, take it to PARF
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televangelists are about as close to being churchly as the subway guy is to a daycare center.
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televangelists are about as close to being churchly as the subway guy is to a daycare center.
Yep. Predators.
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It always amazes me how upset non-Christians get when someone gives money to a church or ministry.
I doubt you care about the people because the people are happy so it must be jealousy.

BTW, take it to PARF
huh? i'd argue that the con artist are not christians. my intention is to talk about the scam..not religion.
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Can't help it, but I tend to believe good 'ole Karl for this one, "Religion is the opium of the people."
Karl's teachings led to the extermination of over 100 million people.

This is not about religion, this is about con men.
There is a huge difference if you choose to see.
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I shake my head when I hear about people giving money away to strangers regardless of how or why.

Just recently a 94 year old man faces court for importing drugs into Australia. He was a retired dentist and he claimed that he loathed drugs and what they did to people.
He was scammed long distance Nigerian style.

Media Release: 91 year old man charged with importing cocaine highlights scammer activity - Australian Federal Police

But yes Evangelists have always been really good at this but I think Scientologists are the worst. Money? They just take your entire life!
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When has institutionalized religion ever NOT been about money, power or control?

These guys are just the most overt examples.

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