All Base 911s Now Turbocharged

[onewhippedpuppy]

This Is The New Porsche 911 And It's Turbo Only

Not sure how I feel about this. My 996TT was perhaps my favorite Porsche, and I'm looking for another. It will be a boon for tuners. But there is something fundamentally wonderful about the responsiveness of the NA flat six, and even the wizardry of modern turbocharging can't duplicate it.

[speeder]

That sucks. Not surprising though, as BMW and MB have turned to boost in most models in order to meet ever tightening EU fuel mileage standards.

[slow&rusty]

Wow..interesting. MB and BMW are also doing it also, turbos were once only for the revered AMG and ///M Models, but now lesser models in the line-up are now available with hair dryers.

[Mark Henry]

The why, more power from a smaller engine.

As power rises, displacement decreases; both these engines are down to 3.0 liters.

Author hit this spot on...

All that said, I’m sure Porsche diehards will soon be missing the naturally aspirated engines of old. Just as they miss air cooling. And cars built to last for generations.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

And the problem is?

I'm all for turbos. Better efficiency and power!

[HardDrive]

It was either that or a flat 8. The days of the flat 6 were limited anyway, at least in a normally aspirated configuration. What were they going to do 10 years from now, have a 5.0 flat six? I have no problem with it. I'll be interested to see what it does to the sticker price for the cars.

[pavulon]

Apparently there is some magical optimization that occurs at 0.5L/cylinder...it's occurring too frequently to be chance.

[dtw]

The march of progress - now the 911S will come with a twin-turbo engine with twin intercoolers, making 420hp...just like my 2001 996tt. Amazing!

I see from the pictures that the intercoolers are installed in a similar configuration as the earlier generation Turbos. Where are they going to feed them the fresh air? Maybe some trick little scoops underneath the car?

[TheMentat]

What are they gonna call the 911 Turbo now?

[HardDrive]

Originally Posted by TheMentat

What are they gonna call the 911 Turbo now?

I'm voting SC.

[Flieger]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

It was either that or a flat 8. The days of the flat 6 were limited anyway, at least in a normally aspirated configuration. What were they going to do 10 years from now, have a 5.0 flat six? I have no problem with it. I'll be interested to see what it does to the sticker price for the cars.

Lycoming would still have them beat. An IO540 is a little over 540 cubic inches, or about 8.9 liters.

[RF5BPilot]

Originally Posted by Flieger

Lycoming would still have them beat. An IO540 is a little over 540 cubic inches, or about 8.9 liters.

But with a red line a little above 2,700 rpm, more agricultural/industrial than sports car.

[plain fan]

I just saw and read the article. It will be very interesting to see how these perform since Porsche has made a lot of the higher end performance parts now part of the base configuration. The 2017 turbocharged 911 S is now 10 seconds faster around the ring than the current iteration.

So will be see the same next year for the Boxster and Cayman?

Can we look at the Cayenne, Macan and Panamera lineups to see how the eventual 991.2 TT will be badged?

[BK911]

I had heard they may produce a 4 cylinder turbo.
Badge as a 912?

[McLovin]

It's probably ok for now, as new cars.

Will be interesting to see how they withstand the test of time.

Will they still be on the road 15, 20, 25+ years from now, like the 911s from the 70s and 80s are?

I don't know, but I doubt it. I think pretty much all cars being made these days are ultimately going to be disposable. The heat and added complexity of the turbos isn't going to help matters.

[GG Allin]

Originally Posted by thementat

what are they gonna call the 911 turbo now?

911 turbo!!!!!!

[Jim Richards]

I think it's fine to go turbo across the board. What I'd really like to see for the 911 is a reduction in size and weight. Even the Cayman is bigger than my964.

[KNS]

^^ Their great size is one my main turn-offs with new Porsches.

And complexity. Sometimes, with BMWs especially, I think they incorporate gee-wiz features not because we asked for them but because they think they are fantastic and we'll want them.

[island911]

Originally Posted by speeder

That sucks. Not surprising though, as BMW and MB have turned to boost in most models in order to meet ever tightening EU fuel mileage standards.

I think that you could have rather gone with the colloquialism That Blows.

Anyway, I expect that CAFE standards are a big part of pushing this configuration decision.

[Chocaholic]

Porsche will do an amazing job integrating the turbos. There's always, always, always skeptics regarding change at Porsche. Boxster, Cayman, Cayenne are three that come to mind recently. 924, 944 and 928 going back a few years.

Throttle response will be stunning along with fuel economy and emissions. There isn't a car built today that can last, especially as a DIY for 25 years. Hang on to your old 911's. Let's hope we all live long enough for those 25 year life spans to become a problem for us.