Replacing a roof tile

porsche4life · porsche4life's Garage

Had a roof tile decide it no longer wanted to be attached today. Fell off and dinged my garage AC on the way down. How do I need to fix this? Never worked on tile roof before.

GH85Carrera · GH85Carrera's Garage

Deck screws?

Charles Freeborn · Charles Freeborn's Garage

They're held on with wire. It goes through the hole in the tile. The wire is wrapped around a galvanized roofing nail that's sealed with tar. It will be up under the flashing.

porsche4life · porsche4life's Garage

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Deck screws?

I've got a box of 4" gold deck screws and I ain't afraid to use them!!!

ossiblue · 07:54 PM

Those are edge tiles and they're held on slightly differently. Look at the remaining tile and you'll see the nail head through the side of the tile, nailed into the side of the rafter. You'll also notice the hole in the tile further toward the front. Those are the areas where the tiles are secured. if the fallen tile doesn't have a hole, it's probably because it was cut too short in order to fit the distance between the overlap and the flashing. It looks like the roofer may have secured it with the glob of mastic you see in the top of the overlapped tile. If the piece didn't break, you can drill a small hole in the side an nail it up. If it is broken, cut a new tile to the proper length, drill a hole, and nail it up.

porsche4life · porsche4life's Garage

It broke in half when it fell. Here is the outside edge.

slodave · slodave's Garage

That tile was cut and "glued". Shoddy job.

look 171 · 09-16-2015, 10:35 PM

what Ossiblue said. See the glob of cement on top of the fallen tile? That was under the flashing. Cut tile with a small grinder and a diamond blade. Shove it back up there and install with a dab of glue (put a little more then that, will ya Sid). Not sure if drilling new holes that close to the edge without cracking the tile is possible. I have done it with 50% success. That would be the best way to ensure that the mechanical fastener will make it stay put for good even if the mastic fails. Most roofer just mastic along with cement and call it the day. They stay put pretty well until the big earthquake.

You will be fine.

Whenyou get up there, seal up that crack or opening with something to keep bees or other insect from entering the home.

porsche4life · porsche4life's Garage

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Originally Posted by slodave

That tile was cut and "glued". Shoddy job.

Umm... Sadly as with most houses built in the last 20 years here it's pretty much par for the course for the neighborhood. The trim work in our house is so shoddy I've considered ripping it all out... Looks like they rough cut it with a hatchet, then back caulked and painted it to attempt to hide the crappy work.

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what Ossiblue said. See the glob of cement on top of the fallen tile? That was under the flashing. Cut tile with a small grinder and a diamond blade. Shove it back up there and install with a dab of glue (put a little more then that, will ya Sid). Not sure if drilling new holes that close to the edge without cracking the tile is possible. I have done it with 50% success. That would be the best way to ensure that the mechanical fastener will make it stay put for good even if the mastic fails. Most roofer just mastic along with cement and call it the day. They stay put pretty well until the big earthquake.

You will be fine.

Whenyou get up there, seal up that crack or opening with something to keep bees or other insect from entering the home.

So I need to redo the glob of cement as well when I put it back up there? I'll take the broken tile up so I can try to match the old job.

billybek · billybek's Garage

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Originally Posted by porsche4life

Looks like they rough cut it with a hatchet, then back caulked and painted it to attempt to hide the crappy work.

They call that carpenter in a tube!

9dreizig · 09-17-2015, 06:25 AM

Sid, call Cat, ,she ran a roofing business for 30 years...

look 171 · 09-17-2015, 07:57 AM

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So I need to redo the glob of cement as well when I put it back up there? I'll take the broken tile up so I can try to match the old job.

I think its ok without it, the flashing, if installed correctly, should keep the moisture out, but the cement kinda holds the tile in place and it helps a little if moisture does come through

gacook · gacook's Garage

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Umm... Sadly as with most houses built in the last 20 years here it's pretty much par for the course for the neighborhood. The trim work in our house is so shoddy I've considered ripping it all out... Looks like they rough cut it with a hatchet, then back caulked and painted it to attempt to hide the crappy work.

So I need to redo the glob of cement as well when I put it back up there? I'll take the broken tile up so I can try to match the old job.

Looking at the area around where the roof and house meet, I see lots of cracking/splitting. I'd re-seal that whole area if I were you.

How old's the roof? Tile should be under at least a 15-year warranty.

porsche4life · porsche4life's Garage

House was built in '01. Roof is original. Good luck finding the manufacturer though...

Yes stucco has some cracks. Whole house is due for paint in the near future.

look 171 · 09-17-2015, 10:19 AM

take it to a roofing supplier and ask for a matching tile. Run you a few bucks

gacook · gacook's Garage

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House was built in '01. Roof is original. Good luck finding the manufacturer though...

Yes stucco has some cracks. Whole house is due for paint in the near future.

That's a huge problem with the stucco houses that have gone up this century; the builders don't take the time to cure it properly (takes a while) because they're trying to slap up as many housing developments as they can. Quality of work is almost non-existent, and the stucco typically starts cracking within 5 years. Like you mentioned, don't get me started on the finishing work INSIDE the house...

porsche4life · porsche4life's Garage

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That's a huge problem with the stucco houses that have gone up this century; the builders don't take the time to cure it properly (takes a while) because they're trying to slap up as many housing developments as they can. Quality of work is almost non-existent, and the stucco typically starts cracking within 5 years. Like you mentioned, don't get me started on the finishing work INSIDE the house...

Oh I'm sure we could swap some stories... I'm in quite a few houses weekly, and I see some extremely shoddy stuff. I've told my clients many times that sadly this issue or that issue is fairly normal due to the haste with which they build them.

look 171 · 09-17-2015, 08:00 PM

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Oh I'm sure we could swap some stories... I'm in quite a few houses weekly, and I see some extremely shoddy stuff. I've told my clients many times that sadly this issue or that issue is fairly normal due to the haste with which they build them.

Min. building code requirement is the problem. How can we compare mass produced houses to houses that are build individually especially custom homes.

porsche4life · porsche4life's Garage

I understand the reason. Doesn't help that buyers want it NOW and don't understand that it takes time to build a house....

LeeH · 09-17-2015, 09:09 PM

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I understand the reason. Doesn't help that buyers want it NOW and don't understand that it takes time to build a house....

Yeah, but it only takes 10 minutes to take one down.

Plenty of roof tiles being trashed in my part of town.... along with windows, doors, garage doors, lumber. Demolition company is salvaging NONE of it despite requests from charities that work on houses.