Ghosts, what are your thoughts?

[David McLaughlin]

The Ever Been Dead post got me to thinking... A very dangerous past time for me.

New developments in my life made me rethink my perspective on ghosts and the afterlife. I even attended a seance recently. Many people believe in ghosts, many do not. Some claim to see or hear them. Anyone have any experience?

[creaturecat]

When i was younger, i spent a year doing film company night security at a closed-down insane asylum. A big one. Crease Clinic, outside Vancouver. Still used for movie production to this day.
I was the only one there. Walking the three floors. Lobotomy room, chiller baths, prison cells with chains, you name it.
I had a small flashlight that ran off 2 AA's.
Nothing. Never saw/heard a thing that was even close to "ghost-like".
fwiw.

link: http://crease-clinic.blogspot.ca

i did spend considerable time working in Essondale, which is as well referenced in the article.

[JavaBrewer]

Negative ghost rider. The pattern is full.

Originally Posted by JavaBrewer

A year ago I stayed, unknowingly, in a *haunted* hotel on Okinawa. The locals refuse to stay there cause it's built on land where horrible war atrocities were committed. I didn't like the idea but hey, I didn't pick the place, and it's a damn nice place at that. One of my co-workers is Mormon, and he came down on the second night all freaked out about someone being in the room with him... I slept like a baby the entire week.

I still don't believe in ghosts. The dead are, well...dead.

[TechnoViking]

Imaginationland has ghosts. And these guys, too....

[stomachmonkey]

I have owned cats for most of my life.

They "see" things we don't.

I don't know if what they see are "ghosts" or something else but whatever it is is real.

[sammyg2]

Put me down as a no.

[ckelly78z]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

I have owned cats for most of my life.

They "see" things we don't.

I don't know if what they see are "ghosts" or something else but whatever it is is real.

One night my cat had it's ears back and hissing at something near the ceiling (not a bug) that kinda spooked me out but otherwise, NO !

[look 171]

No, not me.

A good friend owns this rather large apartment unit. One of the unit is haunted according to him and his on site manager. Tenants stay more more then 3-4 weeks and they haul ass outta there ASAP. The manager refuse to go in there due to things that are going on in there. Plumbers and trades folks who do maintenance wouldn't step foot in there unless they are new and have never been there before. It sat vacant for over a year on and off. His wife hired a ghost buster to go in and do his thing. She found him on the internet and his regular job is an actor (:roll eyes: your typical Hollywood weirdo). 3000 bucks bucks and a few days later, it was done. The manager goes in there now and its been rented for a few years. I was LMAF when he told me this story. He thinks it was money well spent. whatever works?

[sand_man]

Ghosts? Nah. Now Bigfoots...

[tabs]

Originally Posted by look 171

No, not me.

A good friend owns this rather large apartment unit. One of the unit is haunted according to him and his on site manager. Tenants stay more more then 3-4 weeks and they haul ass outta there ASAP. The manager refuse to go in there due to things that are going on in there. Plumbers and trades folks who do maintenance wouldn't step foot in there unless they are new and have never been there before. It sat vacant for over a year on and off. His wife hired a ghost buster to go in and do his thing. She found him on the internet and his regular job is an actor (:roll eyes: your typical Hollywood weirdo). 3000 bucks bucks and a few days later, it was done. The manager goes in there now and its been rented for a few years. I was LMAF when he told me this story. He thinks it was money well spent. whatever works?

Quantify this? Countless people are experiencing something that they can not rationally explain unless you go outside of the box. It is enough to scare them, so that they won't enter nor stay? You might say an over active imagination? That might work if it were one or two people, but if you have multiple people over time then you had better come up with some other explanation. The wind or rattling of the pipes, same thing, that can be rationally deduced and traced down, guess again. So something is going on Mr Jones and you don't know what it is.

Here you might want to trace back the history of the unit to find out if someone passed away in it, and the circumstances? That along with the experiences people were having and the fact that a "ghost buster" cleared the place of it's manifestation becomes like it or not a rational explanation.

[tabs]

I back in the day stayed at a B&B (Montpelier Inn) in Montpelier, VT, beautiful place. I toured the place and said it would be perfect if you had a ghost. They said they did. I said can I check it out they said sure. Where I asked they said one of the two rooms at the top of the stairs. Going up the stairs I thought well romm #1 would be a good place to start. Very slowly with my eyes and ears open I started to enter room number 1 and the door slammed on me. Whew!!!! Next day I went back up and tried the door to see if I could receate the incident. I could not make the door move with door jam under it, or the door would not stay open if the door jam was loosely placed under the door. Either the door stayed open or it would immediately close. I even jumped up and down on the floor to see if I could loosen it up, I could not. Take it for what it is worth.

It seems that a lady owner who was a bit touched in the head died in the house in 1923 and her presence was mostly noted by the smell of Lilacs.

[Laneco]

A few years ago, I stayed on the Queen Mary for a week. So-so hotel, but a very interesting place to stay with great history.

Two of us were walking back from dinner one night and down a long corridor, a movement caught my eye. The corridor was blocked off - no one allowed in the area. I didn't see a door open/close or anything else, just something vague from the very peripheral of my vision. I discounted it.

A day or two later, on the same corridor, I saw something again. This time, I got a very good look at it. It was sort of a dim column of light roughly the size of a person. I could not distinguish any features. But it moved. As I watched it, it went through a door without opening the door. I hopped over the "do not enter" rope and made my way to the door. To this day, I have no idea what possessed me to knock on the door (or what I'd have done if there'd been an answer - LOL!). But knock I did. No answer. I stood there in the dark corridor probably a good minute before I went back into the unrestricted area of the ship.

I don't know what I saw, but I saw it twice and got a real solid look at it the second time. Put me in the camp of "very open to the possibility." In the last 100 years, we've discovered/learned quite a few new things that no one believed existed. Atoms, subatomic particles, etc. Being "unknown" does not make it "unreal."

angela

[Porsche-O-Phile]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

I have owned cats for most of my life.

They "see" things we don't.

I don't know if what they see are "ghosts" or something else but whatever it is is real.

There's a lot of evidence to suggest that cats can see into the ultraviolet spectrum, which can explain a lot of their reactions to things we can't see in the visible light spectrum (but maybe not everything).

I do believe there are things we don't fully understand and there are aspects of the universe / reality that we aren't tuned into, but I don't believe at all in "ghosts" in the commonly defined sense (i.e. spirits of people who have died). I believe that when we die, we die. Nothing lives on. There is no "soul", no "spirit", no nothing. We just die and rot away and our constituent atoms eventually become part of other things.

I've had some creepy experiences but nothing that convinces me in an afterlife or post-mortem existence of any sort.

[reverie]

My experience is similar to Angela's.

About 10 years ago, my girlfriend and I went shopping on a Saturday afternoon. One of our stops was an arts-and-crafts store in the old industrial area south of downtown Seattle. It was an old building, and everything was original brick and old wood. Had an old musty smell.

There was nothing there for me, not even feather boas for Halloween, and I was bored. I walked the aisles, glancing from side to side for anything interesting. I happened to look ahead of me (for some reason), and a ghost was in the same aisle as me! She was about 40 years old, dressed in beautiful Victorian-era clothing, she was reading a book that she was holding in front of her, and she was floating about 12" off the ground, moving toward me at a walking pace but she was floating along, not walking. She seemed to be absorbed in her reading.

I immediately stopped walking, and stared at her from about 15 feet away. She must've noticed me, because she glanced up and made eye contact with me. She smiled a bemused Mona Lisa smile, and without stopping, she turned right and went down a side aisle. I was frozen, couldn't move. Finally after about 30 seconds I worked up the courage to follow her, but she was gone. She had disappeared. She either went through the brick wall at the end of the side aisle, or she disappeared. Either way, she was gone. I found my girlfriend at the other side of the store, and told her what happened. She didn't want to stay in the store anymore. I asked a clerk if the store is haunted, and the clerk walked away. So I followed my gf out of the store, and we've never been back.

The building still exists, but it has been remodeled and is now office-space.

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[look 171]

the question is why these thing always happen in older buildings and no so much in new buildings?

[David McLaughlin]

They can happen in newer building from what I'm learning.

I had an experience where the two people I was with, neither knew the other, looked at the same spot and both described the same thing. The others there couldn't see it including myself. I've come to believe that some people are sensitive to these things while others are closed off.

[look 171]

could it be that ghost exist in another dimension but were never the spirits of dead humans, instead they can be something else entirely?

[M.D. Holloway]

I wish there were ghosts...I have never witnessed anything along those lines. Never saw a UFO either. I guess I'm not the chosen...

[aigel]

Haha - every few months we have one of these threads. It is like sitting around the campfire and everyone giving their best story. I think it is all in one's head. I don't believe in ghosts, that's why I never see them. If I were superstitious, of course I'd see them.

If I ever see a ghost, I'll check myself in. I can't even seem to see a deer in the woods that is real, how would I ever see a ghost!?

G

[masraum]

I'm open minded but skeptical about many/most unexplained phenomena.