What's in your glovebox?
 

As a fairly new Porsche owner, I was wondering what everyone has in their glovebox. All I have in mine is an insurance card, registration, owner's manual and a flashlight. I thought I read a while back that you should have a small fire extinguisher in there just in case?

Swiss army knife, spare fuses, relay and dme relay, spare glasses, gloves, manual. Bits of wire. More useful stuff in boot and door pockets.

By the way. How do you get a small fire extinguisher in there?

A SIG Sauer P220 with 8 rounds of 185gr HydrShoks, rubber grips and tritium night sights.

when the cars actually on the road it'll be different but right now all I've got in there is the registration card.

Registration and insurance paperwork, AAA card, condoms and a Kimber .45 auto. Cannot see the need for much anything else!

Joe

Soooo right. What do you need? Not a cell phone. When I have my .45 with me, I don't dial 9-1-1.

I would rather be judged by 12 of my peers than carried to the grave by 6 of my friends...

Just this morning here in Phoenix we had a woman shot and killed while sitting at a stoplight. The two perps threw a large rock through her windshield to get her attention, then shot and killed her... all for no reason and probably just to get into a gang. Hope they find and roast the bastards.

Joe

Lifetime NRA

I think the better question is where is your glovebox??? Mine's on the shelf next to the car right now,

Or better

What was living in your glovebox when you bought the car??...

sjd

We have a guy in Seattle who chased down a jacker ('85 Gran Prix?) and shot the kid in the head at a stop sign. The perp is in critical condition.

So, feels good to know the jacker got his? If I were the shooter, I would not enjoy the night in jail and the first degree assault charge. Gotta think before you act...

My glovebox has a film container full of quarters for the self-wash outfits. Also keep a disposable camera to shoot pics should God forbit an accident happen. One picture is worth a big old shouting match in court!

John

Richard...you might consider a good shoulder holster for that Sig.
I keep my Baretta 92SB in one...have for years...part of the body now.
And yes....it does solve disputes very quickly....
Bob

John,

Agree with you that you have to think before doing something on impulse...

Chasing down someone is Police business, but if someone comes at me and is not smiling, then I am not going to sit there and become a victim. If I see someone do something like this, I would call 911 and follow if possible. Not my job to stop and detain this idiot unless he is putting someone else in danger...

If a cop had shot the perp, then yes, I would feel better. Seeing these kids roam the country, stealing and killing then being slapped on the hand has to stop. The guy who shot the kid in your posting went out of bounds and he will face a jury who will decide his fate.

Joe

So, feels good to know the jacker got his? If I were the shooter, I would not enjoy the night in jail and the first degree assault charge. Gotta think before you act...

Guns in the glovebox
 

Cell phones are just too practical to go without and we've used ours on several occasions to dial 9-1-1 for accidents that we have witnessed.

Guns, well that's a touchy subject. I'll just say I personally don't want one cause I can't justify the risk and responsibility associated with owning one. If I die someday because I didn't have a gun, then that was my decision and risk to take. I honestly feel that the risk of a personal tragady with the gun is much greater than being shot by a stranger. Oh and I would also bet that the unfortunate lady killed in AZ would still be dead even if she had a gun in her glovebox. A rock coming through the windshield is going to stun a person...not trigger them to go for their gun.

My .02, but for what its worth I have no problems with people owning guns. I've shot some in my time and found it enjoyable. However the laws need to be enforced that would make commiting crimes with guns a one time thing...if you get my drift.

<edit> Forgot to add my list -
Owners manual
Registration and insurance
Air gauge
Various CDs
Swiss army pocket knive
Maps
Cigarette lighter - cell phone charger took its place
Wheel lock key
Napkins - for when my kids ride along
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Door pockets:
a) Air gauge
b) Gloves
c) Radar detector
d) Cell phone charger
e) Sun glasses

Glove box:
a) Insurance card
b) Registration
c) Owner's manual
d) Walther PPKS

Don't see how you could get a fire extinguisher of any worth into such a small space.

Oh and in the front, oil. And a funnel.

A home made tool kit w/ sockets fuses and what not. Owners manual. And depending on final destination an optional Steyr M40.

Wow. I wouldn't have guessed this to be a pistol-packing community. I'll make a note to be more careful about what I say at PCA events!

Drugs, money, and sunglasses. No gun needed, I have people who handle those problems for me.

registation,a cheap meter and fuses. fire ext. mounted in the passenger floor.

we don't have gang/violence where i live.( knock on wood )

thus no guns. i could hold their head to the tail pipe and monoxide them to death.

Why do you guys keep handguns in your glovebox?
It’s not the most quickly accessible point for the driver and not particularly secure.
Is it a legal requirement for carry in a car in your states?

The old door buzzer relay lives in my glovebox. Don't know why I still have it.

I think the first post I made here at Pelican was asking how to disarm that beast. It's still my favorite upgrade.

Greg,

Unarmed citizen = a helpless victim
Armed citizen = alive and able to defend themselves

Milu,

The countries who have taken weapons from their citizens to make life "safer" have seen the crime rate rise every year. The law abiding citizens are then defenseless against the criminals, who "forgot" to turn their guns into the govt! Every state in America that has enacted a "concealed carry" law has seen the crime rate decline. I rest my case...

Am not a real big gun nut but not a helpless victim either. Do not want to end up like the below...

Joe

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1216cardeath-ON.html

OK, ok, I don't carry my gun in my glovebox. When I do carry - and it's rare nowadays - I clip the holster to the driver's side door pocket, in front of the speaker. My CCW expired last week and I have to wait another 18 mos. to renew because of a new law they passed since I last renewed, which makes me ineligible for a while longer. So I have to carry openly now, if I do carry and I probably won't.

All the other goodies I am rarely without don't fit in my glovebox, so they go in a tool bag in my trunk. They include just about every handtool you could need and sometimes I have a small floor jack in there too, brake fluid, oil, spare fan belt, spare fuses, wire ties, 101 Projects, gloves, blanket, torque wrench, you name it.

Map of the USA and few Frank, Ella and other good tapes.

Dont drive her on any mean streets in the city and out in the boondocks always out-run the idiots in pick-ups with the "3" sticker in the back window.

As for the gun thing - I really think most of the USA is more dangerous than NYC. I spend a lot of time in Bed-Sty and Harlem and never even considered carrying anything...

Calculator, owner's manual, spare red relay and assorted fuses. Pens, of course. Registration + insurance card.

And (to some dismay)

Beretta 8045 + spare mag. Hydra - shock 165's all the way through. Carried in the glove box since I usually wear clothing that doesn't allow me to conceal that easily, plus it's bulky and bangs around. It's a much neater approach than having it dangling from your belt, and it saves your slacks and seats. Also staying away from known problem areas help. WA state law makes this the best solution.

WA. concealed rules state that the firearm must be non - visible at all times, concealed weapons permit or not. If the any part of the weapon can be literally seen, it's considered brandshing a weapon. If you are pulled over and a gun is found off person but in the vehicle (glovebox) then the burden falls on the driver of the vehicle.

I tend to shy away from places that would require me to have my weapon ready as I drive. I only carry if I'm in a high risk area (ATM machine at night for instance). Otherwise, it's in the car, which is always in a secure garage w/ alarm.

Remember, if in a pinch, the only thing better than a gun is a Porsche which will do as a nice bludgeon. Remember, drive only over the guy in front.

rjp

Not like you have a choice, thanks to your "as needed" permit laws!

rjp

Rich & Joe
 

I am in Real Estate and occasionly have to go places I wouldn't want my wife to walk alone. I 2nd Richard's place. I have made a habit of putting my S&W in the map pocket. It is actually easier access than on my hip when seated. Plus new seats don't allow for the extra stuff around the belt line.
Don't carry often, sometimes feel like a tool with darn thing on. But also don't like the idea of being a helpless victim. I have my CC permit, so just like most of the owners, I am legal and contientous. Just still feels wierd sometimes.

Here in VA, the cops are pretty cool about law-abiding citizens owning guns. I got nailed for speeding in Roanoke a while back and had my .45 on the front seat. I handed the cop my permit with my driver's license and he didn't even look at it before handing it back to me and taking my license back to his car to write me a ticket. I also had a cop at my house taking a report when someone tried to break in (I wasn't home when it happened or they would have been mopping him off my floor). The cop asked me if I was "protected" and sort of made eyes when he said it. We then proceded to chat about our respective SIG's for a while. I used to always carry, but it's just a huge repsonsibility and I'm on my absolute best behavior when I have a gun around me. So I usually leave it at home and then behave like a jerk.;)

Chewing gum, sunglasses, silk square, spare tights, tissues. Leatherman tool (present from Milu).

My husband, daughter and I all have a "porto d'arme" similar to American concealed carry permit. I wouldn't dream of leaving my pistol in the glovebox as I have to use a lot of valet parking. I usually carry in a special handbag which fits comfortably in a door pocket of my Ford (replacing year end with a Mini!!!). I avoid the usual female solution of bag around gearstick or on seat. In Italy that is just asking to have it snatched while waiting at traffic lights.

Me too. I just stay away if there's an issue. It's an awful to think I'd even need this thing.

Concerning cops in Seattle and guns- around here, if you get pulled over and a gun is showing, then it's the screaming and yelling, their Glock's are out, and you're spread eagle. You're automatically a criminal. I speak from experience. You're damn lucky to live in a place that understands what it's really all about. I don't dare leave it in plain view, for fear of what I'd be accused of. Even with my CWP I still haven't figured out how to explain it in the glovebox without raising incident. I do make sure the paperwork sits ABOVE the gun, just in case I get stopped.

rjp

(yes, I think it's that bad)

edit:

also, a good link if you ever feel lazy complacent about ownership: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Snyder/cowards.html

From experience, if you are pulled over in Arizona or Texas, show your CCW permit. You are legally bound to do so if you have a weapon in your possession. 90% of the time they do not give out a ticket to a CCW holder as long as you are just going a bit over the limit...

Agree with most and its not in the glovebox when I am driving, but if I am going into a bank or city hall, we cannot "carry" there and must lock it somewhere, so the glovebox is the only option.

Isabo, I hold a "carry permit" in Germany and there are places in Europe where it felt really good to have some protection with me! We also have small cases that usually look like a organizer case that fits a PPK or .45 very nicely.

Joe

my glovebox?? all my dope, a few guns, some dynamite, 2 rubbers, and my porno. oh, and i forgot...........a stick of really old beef jerky.

In glovebox:
- registration
- maps (why do I have to carry 10+ maps just to cover the Bay Area? Oh for the $$$ to buy a Garmin StreetPilot . . . )
- owner's manual

In door pockets:
- DME relay, red round relay
- a little camera (for UFOs, solar eclipses, and fender-benders)
- my trusty Fisher "Space Pen" (when the car sinks underwater, I can write my final thoughts)
- Swiss Army knife (used to live in my briefcase, but with current airport security it had to find a new home)
- cellphone stuff (car charger and headset)

This excludes the miscellaneous small change, jetsam and flotsam that I periodically clean out.

Carrying a firearm is not a practical option for private citizens in California, AFAIK. Even if it was, I don't know if I'd carry my Glock 19. I think I'm more at risk from housewives in SUVs than from armed criminals, and I suspect the gun would prove of most use to the guy who steals it from my car. Then again, I don't have the option so it's hard to say what I'd do if I did.

registration
proof of insurance
swiss army knife
grenade launcher (for late night ATM visits)
small thermonuclear device (in case anyone looks cross at me)

I'm afraid I just don't understand the need to carry a handgun in the car. I can't believe that everyone's world is *that* unsafe. I've been in east LA, south central, and other "highly dangerous" areas even at night. Not that I felt particularly comfortable, but I never though, "oh crap, I gotta have a gun." And if I don't feel safe, I don't go there. ATM at night? Go to a grocery store or plan ahead. Confrontation? Avoid it or walk away. I guess I'm a wuss but I've never even punched anyone in 41 years...

It's really quite mind boggling...why not just admit that you like guns and don't bother rationalizing that you "need" it for safety? Maybe I'll change my mind when/if something bad happens to me or my family, but for now I'll be gun-free.

btw, fire extinguisher in rear footwell, fuses, belts and tools up front, cell phone wherever.

Are people really that scared or threatened in society that they need to have the "security" of a gun? I'm curious here about folks who carry guns for security vs. sport/target shooting. What happened in life that made you feel so vunerable? Like Todd here I have never been in a situation where I wished I was carrying a gun. I avoid areas where I am at risk and follow some common sense rules when I can't. I believe that most of my fellow citizens are not gangsters or psychos and that the odds of encountering (knock on my wood desk) someone out to harm me is remote indeed.

Do you guys REALLY all carry guns????

Completely, utterly unheard of in this part of the world and I hope it stays that way.

Glovebox: a zillion spare fuses and a DME relay. Of course a map book as well, but being a guy I never need it.

On the gun thing, I do concede to slipping a 4 0r 6 cell Maglite torch under the drivers seat where it wedges in nicely alongside the CD stacker. These are the most common, legally explainable thing to have on your person on a dark night that are still very useful defensive weapons.

No way dude. Anyone who's not comfortable having a gun, has no business having one. But for those of us who choose to arm ourselves for defensive purposes, it's not a matter of just loving guns. It's a matter of having a piece of emergency, life-saving equipment in the car. I love guns, but carrying is just too much of a PITA sometimes. Cars are a LOT more dangerous than guns and no one here is shy about having a fast car. My first rule in life to avoid trouble/confrontation at all costs. But sometimes that doesn't suffice. When my 911 left me stranded in the middle of nowhere last summer (fuel pump died), I would have been rather defenseless had some folks come along and wanted to rob me - and having a woman with me (who can't run as fast as I can) adds a whole another dimension to it. When you need a gun, there is no substitute. I just hope I never need one. I've never punched anyone either. But I did witness a fatal shooting in college. And just this past Fri. night. I walked a friend back to her car on Capitol Hill, and when we got there, her car was inside a police tape perimeter from a shooting 30 min. earlier. Obviously, the perp was not at all deterred by DC's total handgun ban.

That Mag-lite won't get you out of most playground scrapes in Oakland, California.

You don't need that until you change that smoke generator out for the new engine. No threat of carjacking until then.

Dan, I meant to add that I always carry my favorite lawyer's phone number too.;)

But seriously, I took out the glovebox and put in a ten-disk CD changer. My glovebox door lock is without the guts, so I only drive in NoVa funruns when LeSchander is there to keep it safe and secure.:p

That's a pretty bogus analogy Richard. Cars were made for transportation and are a necessary commodity in this country. Guns were made to kill things so comparing cars vs. guns = apples vs. potatoes.