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Originally Posted by BK911
(Post 9079452)
Should have seen what we were doing to news helos in the gulf ~1988. And unmarked small surface craft.
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I was there through the start of Ernest Will to Operation Preying Mantis. It was an interesting time.
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Originally Posted by gereed75
(Post 9079556)
I hate to interject any sort of reality into this other wise idiotic thread, but back in the day (1980's) at the height of Cold War tensions, we pretty much had a russki cruiser within 1 mile of our carrier everyday 24/7 while in WestPac. It was just how it was. In the Med, we went through a time when US ships and russki's played chicken and we actually had collisions at sea.
When you openly operate near a Russian base, you will get buzzed. You are in international waters and airspace.
Although I generally agree that Obama has neutered the last remaining super power, and Putin ain't afraid, this stuff Is just part of the game. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Back when USSR was able to muster the occasional creditable air power threat at sea (remember that we are about the only Navy that can sustain carrier ops in international waters), it was commonly believed that we tailed their task groups also - with attack subs. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
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All true.
The ship being buzzed is an Aegis equipped destroyer with SPY-1 radar - or a newer variant. These are extremely capable ships and I would imagine had everything ready to go should the SU-24 have painted the USS Cook in a particular manner.
The SU-24 is about as stealthy as the Queen Mary and about as much of a threat. The Cook wasn't unaware.
Quick sea story.
I was the Air Boss on the USS La Salle (and the COMIDEASTFOR Air Officer) during the first Persian Gulf War.
During the run up to the ground was we spent a lot of time at sea in the Gulf. The CO of the La Salle was an F-14 pilot who was doing his deep draft ship tour prior to getting his carrier. He would go on to command a carrier, carrier strike group and eventually rise to become the Vice Commander of Naval Operations, a four star billet, second dude in charge.
We became good friends and he was very helpful in my career.
While underway after an import period in Dubai, the CO and I were chatting on the flight deck. It was a fairly nice day for the Gulf and we were yapping.
He is facing aft and I am facing forward in relation to the ship. I spot an air contact about 3/4 miles in front of the ship - it looks like a P-3.
He turns with me as the P-3 does a port pass on the ship at about a 100 ft in both altitude and separation from the ship. I can see the pilot in the left seat, Ray-bans.
We can also see the roundel on the tail of the P-3: Iranian Air force.
The CO looks at me, I look at him, we do a little Bluto dance on the flight deck and he starts running for CIC.
What a goat rope: The La Salle was an ancient ship with a lot of upgrades but had Helen Keller air search radar. The Iranian P-3 was an F-117 to us, which made it clear that I was on a ship bringing a paint ball gun to a missile fight.
Eek.
Edit: BTW, the amount of Nautical Grab A%% that goes on in international waters would surprise most.