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Why not upgrade to Win10??

Time is running out, I upgraded an older laptop, and all seems fine. Old programs still work. No crashes. Possibly faster, but probaby more from clean up than upgrade.

Do I update my main pc and other PCs?

I know the Big, Bad, microsoft shouldnt push upgrades, but are there any legitimate drawbacks to performance of compatibility?

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I was a victim of a robo-update and lost the camera function on my tablet, and the ability to change printer functions on the fly.
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If you have an internet connection with data caps, you might check how much the upgrade increases your usage.
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I'm a digital printer and would lose all my print drivers.
It would be Armageddon for me.
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Thanks. Not sure how to check data use, but my camera still works (although I never use it) and my ancient plotter driver still works.

Keep them coming.....
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Best thing I ever did for my laptop..win 10 made it better than it was when new!
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I did the upgrade on my home desktop computer. I built it myself and it is way over designed for my real needs. I had zero problems.

On several work machines we have programs that will only work on the original OS. Mostly Win XP Pro. We have dedicated computers that do only one task. No way will we ever upgrade the OS on those.
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My HP Pavilion laptop has crashed again. I don't know if windows 10 caused it or not.
Second time that it has crashed in the last year. Way too much hassle.

Am considering next laptop comes from Costco as they seem to have a great return policy.
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You buy new car. You take it for yearly service. When you are to pick it up, the technician says:

Why don't you take the car 2.0 which we have here? It is better! We removed AC and rear seat though. And it has camera in the coupé which films everything you do, so we can know the customer better. Your old car is broken now. You must take car 2.0.

And buy the way, you do not own the car 2.0. It's a leasing car...here, sign. You must sign in order for us to let you go.
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You can shut off the multiple privacy violating features in Windows 10, but it takes some work, including uninstalling features and blocking ports. (Which you basically can't do with Google and Apple products.)
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Windows 10 privacy problems: Here’s how bad they are, and how to plug them.

Here's a deal breaker:
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The problems start with Microsoft’s ominous privacy policy, which is now included in the Windows 10 end-user license agreement so that it applies to everything you do on a Windows PC, not just online. (Disclosure: I worked for Microsoft in the days of Windows XP.) It uses some scary broad strokes:

Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary.
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The worst part is: it doesn't really do anything better than Windows 7. It's more of the same, but uglier. And rented.

I run Windows XP on one of my laptops. Slimmed down, with majority of unneeded services shut down. It wakes from sleep in 3 seconds, allocates 200MB of RAM after booting and does everything I need (surf, print, run Vag Com etc.). Internet Explorer is removed, of course.
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The sad part is Microsoft was becoming the most moral and trustworthy of the whole group.
I think they went the wrong way on this..

They should have rebuilt WinXP/7 from the ground up using titanium and flush rivets, and made it completely customizable.
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Actually, I have always seen them as simply lacking/behind the times. ...in the realm of Google-style insidious behavior.

Like the last kid to steal on a dare.
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So, let's say that I was smart enough to come up with some super awesome do-dad on the CAD program in my Window 10 equipped computer. Could MS access that and sell it to the highest bidder or something?

Very hypothetical case as many days I struggle to get my shoes tied.
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The sad part is Microsoft was becoming the most moral and trustworthy of the whole group.
I think they went the wrong way on this..
This. Microsoft's business model was based on selling software. Google's is based on selling ads.
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So, let's say that I was smart enough to come up with some super awesome do-dad on the CAD program in my Window 10 equipped computer. Could MS access that and sell it to the highest bidder or something?

Very hypothetical case as many days I struggle to get my shoes tied.
In theory, yes. In reality, that'd be just about the quickest way possible to get their "privacy" policy invalidated by a court. No one would support the idea that they own your intellectual property just because you used their software.
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I downloaded Win 10 the other day on my dinosaur Toshiba laptop and I think it works faster. I am using Google Chrome as my browser. I really don't see much difference between it and the Win 7 I was running .
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The problems start with Microsoft’s ominous privacy policy, which is now included in the Windows 10 end-user license agreement so that it applies to everything you do on a Windows PC, not just online. (Disclosure: I worked for Microsoft in the days of Windows XP.) It uses some scary broad strokes:

Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary.

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