A10 Warthog

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Tobra

Maybe they knew you were coming Matt. Would only take a few phone calls.

No, it was spur of the moment because we were trying to expedite schedule and not wait on truck delivery. I think they figured we weren't illegals and that's all they cared about.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Lol, whatever dude. Try to get out more, there's a whole world outside of the Internet.

Translation: I CAN"T GIVE YOU ONE SINGLE PIECE OF PROOF to back up my biased opinion.

Oh, wait, the personal insult somehow validates your claims.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

Translation: I CAN"T GIVE YOU ONE SINGLE PIECE OF PROOF to back up my biased opinion.

Oh, wait, the personal insult somehow validates your claims.

Actually it translates to, I'm not going to waste my time Googling crap for you because quite frankly I don't give a damn about what some random uninformed person on the internet thinks.. If you want to believe that your internet commando knowledge rivals my real life experience then so be it, who am I to argue with the fantastic combo of ignorance and arrogance?

[Por_sha911]

Then stop making claims you can't back up and yet trying to defend your lack to integrity with insults to those who question your opinions.

Show me a scientist that publishes opinions without one shred of documentation.

[onewhippedpuppy]

The difference is, of course, that this is a car forum and that I don't have to care what you think. You have yet, btw, to quantify your great aerospace knowledge. Surely you are a pilot, maintainer, or aerospace engineer with first hand knowledge of what you post?

[Scuba Steve]

Originally Posted by Mike Billings

Thanks Steve. Laughing now. Today I would have that sealed up.

Funny I would drive the A-10 HUD to the EMI test facility every day strapped into the passenger seat in my '80 Caprice for a month or two. It was secured with the seat belt and was so tall it cut the headliner going over bumps. There was two occasions when a guy in the oncoming traffic recognized the green combiner glass and make a huge expression wondering what that was doing in a rusted '80 Chevy.

ESD plugs and caps for tubes/ducts are on my mind... can ya tell it's FAA audit season again already?

Thinking about it for a second, I've never seen someone conclusively damage anything by ESD before. That's probably a good thing but after a while you'd figure it's something you would run into at some point.

[charlesbahn]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Lol, whatever dude. Try to get out more, there's a whole world outside of the Internet.



I once had to pick up some inert Hellfires in a rental F150 at a freight facility in Tucson and drive them to a range in BFE AZ. I had to go through a Border Patrol checkpoint to get to the airstrip that we were operating out of. Amazing and somewhat concerning that they didn't ask any questions about the dude in a rental truck with four boxes marked as Missiles hanging out the bed.

Reminds me of picking up a really large jet turbine model at the Washington DC bus station. Strapped the fuselage on the top of the station wagon, and headed off down Pennsylvania Ave, just past the White House. Didn't realize what I had done until I got home and was looking at the car thinking, that really looks like a missile on the top of my car. Scary thing is, no one stopped me, or even looked twice.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Scuba Steve

ESD plugs and caps for tubes/ducts are on my mind... can ya tell it's FAA audit season again already?

Thinking about it for a second, I've never seen someone conclusively damage anything by ESD before. That's probably a good thing but after a while you'd figure it's something you would run into at some point.

I've seen connector sockets damaged by FOD when someone connected a connector and clamped it down. Those little caps are a great thing.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

The difference is, of course, that this is a car forum and that I don't have to care what you think. You have yet, btw, to quantify your great aerospace knowledge. Surely you are a pilot, maintainer, or aerospace engineer with first hand knowledge of what you post?

Blah blah blah STILL NO FACTS PRESENTED TO HELP CONVINCE ME blah blah blah MORE PERSONAL ATTACKS blah blah blah
If you had even a shred of actual facts to back up your claim you would have presented it a long time ago. Instead you keep wasting time since on link would have ended all the crap and I would have conceded to you that you were correct.. The more you blather on without proof, the more I'm convinced that whatever I found online is right and you are FOS.

[tevake]

If I may interupt this parfish exchange for a moment.
Has anyone noticed the tank/ armor led invasion going on in Syria at this time?
So much for the notion that open field warfare is a thing of the past.

As to replacing the A10 with some fast mover with rockets , its my experience that aircraft that can linger and react quickly to the changes of the moment. And can Still be heard to be in the area, Are more impactful to the situation on the ground.

Cheers Richard

[Scuba Steve]

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

I've seen connector sockets damaged by FOD when someone connected a connector and clamped it down. Those little caps are a great thing.

Oh yeah, absolutely. I may have evaluated something earlier today with several bent pins from someone who apparently had something in there when they tried to tighten the connector. Sometimes people amaze me.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

Blah blah blah STILL NO FACTS PRESENTED TO HELP CONVINCE ME blah blah blah MORE PERSONAL ATTACKS blah blah blah
If you had even a shred of actual facts to back up your claim you would have presented it a long time ago. Instead you keep wasting time since on link would have ended all the crap and I would have conceded to you that you were correct.. The more you blather on without proof, the more I'm convinced that whatever I found online is right and you are FOS.

Well it's hard to argue with an expert opinion like that, so I concede. Btw, do you ask your doctor to send you some Wikipedia links to back up his diagnosis?

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Scuba Steve

Oh yeah, absolutely. I may have evaluated something earlier today with several bent pins from someone who apparently had something in there when they tried to tighten the connector. Sometimes people amaze me.

My favorite was a Milwaukee cordless driver through the top of a wing. Moron had it balanced on the canopy rail and knocked it off, punched a perfect Phillips shaped hole in the top wing skin. Thank God it was not a wet bay and was a pretty simple repair. I told the shop supervisor that while I couldn't fire him, that he was not going to touch my planes again, because it wasn't the first stupid thing he had done.

[john70t]

(my armchair contribution)
Helicopters can loiter and do more work with the small stuff.
But one A-10 can cover a wide swath of territory and BAM SURPRISE MFKR I'M HERE!

[Por_sha911]

I keep thinking, "Gee, maybe this guy knows more than me. Maybe he'll post SOME KIND OF LINK to prove his point. Heck I can learn from anyone"
Then, the new set of insults do continue to prove there are no facts to back up your biased opinion.
Aw never mind.

For those who came in late and missed the beginning of the concert, PLEASE watch this. Less than 6 minutes long.

[greglepore]

Get a room

[sereyll]

I should add, had I perfect vision the Warthog would have been at the top of my list.

[abisel]

A-10/OA-10 Thunderbolt II - Military Aircraft

[M.D. Holloway]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

Blah blah blah STILL NO FACTS PRESENTED TO HELP CONVINCE ME blah blah blah MORE PERSONAL ATTACKS blah blah blah
If you had even a shred of actual facts to back up your claim you would have presented it a long time ago. Instead you keep wasting time since on link would have ended all the crap and I would have conceded to you that you were correct.. The more you blather on without proof, the more I'm convinced that whatever I found online is right and you are FOS.

hmmmm seems that if I was going to make a choice on the more convincing argument I would side with Matt on this one Joe. From reading both posts, I'm not seeing much from your experiences except for some video. His argument is sound and I haven't seen many on this board challenge him (and these are guys with actual military experience) on this topic.

[Por_sha911]

Lubey: I have found info from folks that say the other planes are better but when comparing to the basic foundation design of the A10 I find them lacking (ie: single engine or not simple triple redundant system). These are things that keep the plane flying in spite of greater risks of getting hit.
Opinions are like noses. Everyone has one and they are all different. I do feel that Matt has a emotional connection (pride in workmanship) that may cloud his opinion. All I ask is for data, facts that are documented that back up his opinion. All I've gotten is juvenile insults. My conclusion is that Matt follows the principle that if you can't dazzle them with brilliance (or verified facts), baffle them with B.S.
I admitted up front I knew little about the A10 going into the discussion. I just can't accept "well I think..." as proof.