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Tesla's solar roofs could revolutionize the industry

Pretty impressive. These are about two years out for commercial release. They will be produced at Tesla's plant in Buffalo.


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I saw that and the new power wall, this guy is killing it!

My only concern is politics and big business will not let this succeed.

I think it's awesome and I would love this to be off grid all the way. If you saw other presentations, the size of solar to power the entire US is slightly smaller than the top tip of texas.


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If it is like his other products it will produce way less electricity, and cost way more than his early estimates. Never to meet the original specs.
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Didn't watch, but What is revolutionary about solar panels on the roof?
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My only concern is politics and big business will not let this succeed.
Politics and big business are the only reason it exists.
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Didn't watch, but What is revolutionary about solar panels on the roof?
You mean other than solar panels are the roof?
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OK so how are these connected? Lots and lots of copper wiring?
Two wires per tile... That's a lot of wires all in your roof!

(I watched the video) There's no way they'll be cheaper than conventional roofs.

Don't get me wrong. It's a great idea. Maybe they'll incorporate the wiring into the securing system for the tiles.
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If it is like his other products it will produce way less electricity, and cost way more than his early estimates. Never to meet the original specs.
But, this is designed for those who don't care about efficiency. These are designed to be aesthetically pleasing green-washed tech for those who want a cool virtue signaling story. ...you know, to show others how much better they are than the proletariats who use that cheap carbon energy stuff.

I mean, I think that we can all agree that this is no different than their $140k electric car. (it's no Nissan Leaf)
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If it is like his other products it will produce way less electricity, and cost way more than his early estimates. Never to meet the original specs.
Yup. Best case for Tesla products is about 50/50 content vs hype.
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OK so how are these connected? Lots and lots of copper wiring?
Two wires per tile... That's a lot of wires all in your roof!

(I watched the video) There's no way they'll be cheaper than conventional roofs.

Don't get me wrong. It's a great idea. Maybe they'll incorporate the wiring into the securing system for the tiles.
I would think the panels touch each solving conductivity complexity.

These will prove to be an important stepping stone on the path toward clean energy.
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I'm pretty sure this is just a placeholder to get the roof of the cars made out of panels.
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The continual struggle for solar has been the energy yielded for the money, if it even halfway made financial sense I would be all for it. Much like wind energy it just doesn't pencil out.
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It is pretty cool looking technology though.
I would like to see how the system connects all those tiny little panels together.
With the cost that some pay for electricity, the cost of standard re-roofing and the added cost of the tiles + installation to energy produced will be interesting to see the payback numbers and years of service and failure rate of individual panels/tiles.
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Especially when you factor in the maintenance and upkeep factor on wind turbines. They are very maintenance intensive and the reduction gear assemblies seem to be always having issues, at least in the ones I've been involved with.
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a step in the right direction. if nothing else.
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The continual struggle for solar has been the energy yielded for the money, if it even halfway made financial sense I would be all for it. Much like wind energy it just doesn't pencil out.
That may have been true 40 tears ago, but it is certainly not true today. People are installing solar panels on their homes today, and saving money, as well as reducing the need to develop more power plants. Solar panels are installed and paid for during a payoff period, after which they are creating free electricity.

There is an entire industry devoted to this. Of course resistance to this in the US means that most of the industry has been outsourced. Way to go guy.
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a step in the right direction. if nothing else.
That may not be true. There's a good chance no further development in solar technology will ever happen. This could be the end of the road for solar.
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I'm pretty sure this is just a placeholder to get the roof of the cars made out of panels.
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That may have been true 40 tears ago, but it is certainly not true today. People are installing solar panels on their homes today, and saving money, as well as reducing the need to develop more power plants. Solar panels are installed and paid for during a payoff period, after which they are creating free electricity.

There is an entire industry devoted to this. Of course resistance to this in the US means that most of the industry has been outsourced. Way to go guy.
It was all the rage to install solar here in Colorado in the 80's. Same lease scams they pull on people today, just a different decade. It went bust about 10 years later. You can still see plenty of older homes with the 80's style panels on them. Long since stopped working.
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Especially when you factor in the maintenance and upkeep factor on wind turbines. They are very maintenance intensive and the reduction gear assemblies seem to be always having issues, at least in the ones I've been involved with.
Yep. Unlike those darn coal burners that just hum along worry free and puke out nothing but blue skies.

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