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afterburn 549 09-27-2016 08:35 AM

I want a Grayhound -Bus
 
Now that i have sold out and officially retired I want an RV, but not the usual kind.
If you guys see an old ScenicCruiser for sale will you please let me know?
Thanx
LOOKS Like this - below

1954 General Motors GMC PD-4501 Greyhound Scenicruiser | ClassicBusDepot.com

Must be my age, I think they are so KOOL looking !

Steve F 09-27-2016 08:44 AM

Don't know where you are located, but off HWY 215 near Hemet Ca. there is a couple acres of them on the south side of the HWY.SmileWavy


Cheers,Steve

aigel 09-27-2016 08:44 AM

Very cool. I love these old bus RVs. You missed out on this one. Probably enough half smoked doobies in the sofa cracks to last you a lifetime!

Willie Nelson’s Old Tour Bus Up For Sale on Craigslist | Saving Country Music

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Craig T 09-27-2016 08:44 AM

Very cool, and would made an awesome high ceiling RV conversion. ...but by the time you drop in a crate motor and trans, redo the drivetrain and cooling system, and build-out the interior into livable space, you'd be well into six-figure$. Look for one already done.

Scenicruising

Look at the last one. The 56. converted and being sold due to death.

tevake 09-27-2016 08:49 AM

Those bus conversions are out there, and can be found at surprisingly low buy in price.

I do Know of one here in Prescott area, that the owner was mostly thru doing the conversion on. then had to deal with cancer. he decided to get a new coach and go have fun.
well his bus is sitting at his place waiting for someone to come finish it up. mostly exterior paint he says.

its a standard bus body, not the vista cruiser.

there is a big gathering of bus folks and their rigs at Quartzite Az.each Jan. plenty of for sale signs.

American Eagle is a quality builder of bus like coaches.

Craig T 09-27-2016 08:53 AM

...But the Scenic Cruise is just so cool. No cache' to a standard bus. With the Scenic or Vista, You can gave a 10' ceiling and lots of light coming in from windows too high for people to look in.

JavaBrewer 09-27-2016 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve F (Post 9297107)
Don't know where you are located, but off HWY 215 near Hemet Ca. there is a couple acres of them on the south side of the HWY.SmileWavy


Cheers,Steve

I have driven past that place many times and have wanted to stop by out of curiosity. I have no need for a bus.

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Craig T 09-27-2016 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JavaBrewer (Post 9297126)
I have no need for a bus.

Same here. We rented one to see if it was something we might want to do for a years when we retire. With fuel cost, RV park fees, dump fees, maintenance, insurance, and depreciation, it's cheaper to drive a Porsche and stay in five-star hotels along the way (and you have to clean your own room!).

tevake 09-27-2016 09:06 AM

You are absolutely right Craig T. The vista cruisers have the cool factor!

But check out this American Eagle.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1474995565.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1474995744.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1474995796.jpg

Admittedly not the vista cruiser coolness, but really a fine coach.
If you like them that big/ heavy.

Cheers Richard

red-beard 09-27-2016 09:20 AM

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Ayles 09-27-2016 09:56 AM

This one was just on BAT. 1968 Prévost Coach | Bring a Trailer

All good except for the 80s/90s interior.

Eric 951 09-27-2016 10:06 AM

If you are serious, you should visit the Greyhound Museum in Hibbing MN and coincide your visit with their annual bus show. Hibbing isn't really near anything and I just happened to be there for a project about 8 years ago which coincided with the meet. The museum itself is interesting, but seeing the private owners displaying their buses as well--everything from fully restored to customized RVs was impressive. All made out of various year Greyhound buses--the Scenicruisers were the most popular.

pwd72s 09-27-2016 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig T (Post 9297136)
Same here. We rented one to see if it was something we might want to do for a years when we retire. With fuel cost, RV park fees, dump fees, maintenance, insurance, and depreciation, it's cheaper to drive a Porsche and stay in five-star hotels along the way (and you have to clean your own room!).

Bingo!

Paul_Heery 09-27-2016 10:15 AM

And Scenicruisers are versatile.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475000108.jpg

scottmandue 09-27-2016 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig T (Post 9297136)
Same here. We rented one to see if it was something we might want to do for a years when we retire. With fuel cost, RV park fees, dump fees, maintenance, insurance, and depreciation, it's cheaper to drive a Porsche and stay in five-star hotels along the way (and you have to clean your own room!).

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475002176.jpg

Dream of mine is after retirement to pick up 997 and tour the country... we could slum it with three star hotels.

I have driven a few big trucks back in the day and not my idea of fun.

But whatever floats your boat.

GWN7 09-27-2016 10:54 AM

A buddy at work built one. Raised the roof and put in all new windows. Extended the back to store two motorcycles inside and put in a heated floor.

The floor was the most interesting. A poured concrete slab 2" thick with plastic piping inside. Worked off the waste heat from the engine. Thermostatically controlled. He would load the family into the bus and go skiing in the mountains on his days off. The motor would idle heating the bus the whole time.

afterburn 549 09-27-2016 10:56 AM

Keep the help coming !
I would like the type that has a window above, in the roof, facing front.
There are two styles, one is a real close to the front, others is set back about 1/2 ways.
Either will work.
I am in the NE sector, so closer to that area would be better, but not a deal breaker if not.

nota 09-27-2016 12:00 PM

my dad did that shortly after WW2
his was a city bus converted to a camper/RV
driven to sw Fla and used until a house was built

tevake 09-27-2016 05:44 PM

here is some food for thought. the best rig for you is a personal matter.
how many traveling, what sort of use. do you want to get into parks with smaller sites
( thats most along the coast in Ca). mostly interstate driving vs smaller back roads etc?

Just lately the southward migration is flowing by here in northern Az. lots of big rigs with full sized trucks or jeeps in tow. most of these folks will head to a known spot for the season. and do little cruising with their rigs. most RV parks along the interstates are well set up for the big rigs. little out of the way parks not so much.

my 35"motorhome turns into a big package once inside some parks looking for a spot.

i recently had a visit with the PO of my coach. he was out for the first big trip with his dream rig, a Prevost 43", really a very nice coach. but their trip was not what they had hoped for. Due to the stress of driving and manuvering the big rig.
they had cruised for years in my coach yet the bigger rig was just not comfortable for them. 35' and 16,000 lbs vs 43' and 48,000 lbs quite the difference.
He did say that once on the interstate it felt great. just most everywhere else was stressful. His is an early 2000s model so relatively modern driving qualities.

i too like the old vista cruisers, and admire those that turn them into nice motorhomes.
just want you to be clear about what you may be wishing for.

Cheers Richard

tevake 09-27-2016 05:52 PM

Can't seem to post pics from my desktop right now.

Here is a pic of the contrast in size. His Prevost is close to the size of a vista cruiser.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475027362.jpg

Those big tires are around $1,000 each

If you do head that way I'll be cheering you all the way.

Cheers Richard

RKDinOKC 09-27-2016 05:55 PM

About a year before he retired a friend of mine bought a kneeling city bus. It had been completely gone thru and re-framed and re-inforced, the motor gone thru, and highway transmission gears put in. Interior was gutted and ready for designing interior and windows placement. He picked it up for $10K. He had been reading a lot of conversion magazines and the nice ones all finished were going for $80K.

The drawback I see is no sliders.

schamp 09-28-2016 05:01 AM

On the scenicruisers the engine is a two stroke detroit 8v71. Only a few had the two engines. Those were all changed to the 8v71. Lots of issues with having two engines. Had to get them matched up to drive right.
They made 1001 of the scenicruisers. Half were taken out of service to be parts for what was left. They did have issues with the body but any surviving today I would think had the plates added on the sides.
The windshields and little oval windows are almost impossible to get today. Not to mention the seals.
These are double clutch machines. No synchronizers.
If you can find one be very careful about buying. They are huge money pits.
I had number 4501-481. Its now in Holland being used as a Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream Bus.

tevake 09-28-2016 05:14 AM

Schamp, I see in your sig line that you have a Wanderlodge, I would like to see some pics of that machine.

Good info on the vista cruiser. Clearly one could be given the resto mod treatment.
And their style may justify doing so. But at what cost. One sure could be sweet once brought up to somewhat modern standards.

Cheers Richard

schamp 09-28-2016 05:21 AM

A Wanderlodge is in the top three best you can get. I think the best year was a 1997. To see mine google "Blue Thunder RV". It should come up on that page somewhere.

If you want to see some for sale go to Bye Bye Bluebird and look around. Next month there is a rally in Pine Mountain, Georgia and there will be 200 plus Wanderlodges there.

I went the Scenicruiser route. Thinking it would be my go to the races camper. Guess i am to slow on the getting it done part. I bought a Wanderlodge for many reasons but being able to use it now was a big one. A Wanderlodge is one of just a few coaches that are roll over certified. They are built not stapled and glued.

schamp 09-28-2016 05:25 AM

byebyebluebird.com to see whats available. I would not buy one thats not known by those guys.

afterburn 549 09-28-2016 11:27 AM

Hat guys / gals -
Appreciate all the advice .
I am a has been OS load guy. No brag. 16 wide, 20 feet tall , 120 long is no big deal (to me). ( moved boats )
A 40-foot bus is a piece of cake .
I know a motor home is NOT cheaper than a motel.
I want the nostalgia , An old grayhound with the Dog on the side is so purrfect!
A juke box .
A bobbing water bird.
A James dean pic with a Spider.
A Hoyt Axton Song.
LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjat5GZ9Mf8

tcar 09-28-2016 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 9298572)
, An old grayhound

You keep misspelling 'Greyhound'.

Spell with an E if doing a search for better results.

FWIW :)

Gogar 09-28-2016 02:20 PM

I think it would be awesome to have an old body style if you could retrofit it to a modern DD motor and a six-speed Allison automatic. Then if you have trouble on the road you can pull into any DD shop and they won't look at you like you're crazy.

afterburn 549 09-28-2016 03:11 PM

OK Greyhound ! LOL
Next-
I am in love with DD series 60 .
I have owned a few, and have not found a better platform .
They come in two sizes , owner friendly .
I got 6MPG with them fully loaded and sometimes 8 MPG.
In a bus the "CO" would be much lower plus a lot less weight to move dwn the road.
All side points .
The bus, -Its an emotional issue not a logical decision i know .

masraum 09-28-2016 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 9298838)
OK Grayhound ! LOL

G R E Y H O U N D

https://www.greyhound.co.za/wp-conte.../DSC3948-2.jpg

https://s3-media4.fl.yelpcdn.com/bup...S4etCnVg/o.jpg

http://i.epochtimes.com/assets/uploa...2311301164.jpg

http://image.trucktrend.com/f/201852...front-view.jpg

tevake 09-28-2016 04:29 PM

Ok GrEat, Afterburner, you sound like a perfect candidate . I'd love to see one done up Pelican style.
That's a ground up, no expense spared, complete new running gear, cushed out interior. Inspired exterior paint.

This is going to be so fun watching.

We Will have to search up a good one to start with.

No more warnings. Or silly heads up with details etc.

On with the hunt guys!

Cheers Richard

Steve Carlton 09-28-2016 06:59 PM

Be sure to get a pre-purchase overhaul.

afterburn 549 09-28-2016 07:07 PM

Hey
All i asked for was a look in the backyards , let me know if you see one .
I did not write Doc Phill or Ann Landers.
I do not need a shrink.
I did not ask for council.
As an X owner of a trking company, I think i have the savvy to do this.
No need to turn this into a bash thread.
thanx

dewolf 09-28-2016 07:21 PM

Couldn't you put a late model fuel efficient engine / trans in one?

afterburn 549 09-28-2016 07:28 PM

Yes
The Series 60 is a good unit . No EGR ( the first couple years)
It is a very reliable 4 stroke, and most go a million miles B4 OH.
I had a few.
Never ever had a head off!
I can not say that about Cummings.
Everyone i ever owned had head bolt failures.
Truly a boring job to fix .
The Macks are ok until bought out by IDK who now.
International engines........nah
Cat- bring lotsa money !

Nickshu 09-28-2016 07:28 PM

Here's some ideas: http://www.cbsnews.com/amp/media/7-incredible-multimillion-dollar-motorhomes/

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tevake 09-28-2016 07:56 PM

Afterburner 549, clearly my posts here have been off the mark, and my attempt at humor failed. Please accept my apologies.

Good luck in your search

Cheers Richard

afterburn 549 09-28-2016 08:00 PM

NP
Its hard to tell a joke from a knock in print here......Lotsa knockers always saying what cant be done...
They sit at home in front of the TV ....knowing everything.
LOL

dewolf 09-28-2016 09:27 PM

Could you use a current 7.3L Turbo diesel. Duramax?? Not up to speed on the US Diesel engines.

afterburn 549 09-29-2016 01:36 AM

Duramax -I would not own an engine that could not be inframed .
I do not want to start a thread war about engines-
But -
To me, a real diesel should be serviceable ( sleeves )
A straight 6 is a lot more simple than a V8 .

Semi trucks, for the most part, dropped the V8 program a long time ago.
500 hp out of a 6 is ample enough for most things.
The Dmax is probably fine but not for me.


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