Boeing 707 first class seating, 1959 on.

[island911]

Amazing. Going all the way back to 1959 they had permanently fixed arm-rests.

A feature carried forward to the present.

[widebody911]

"Excuse me, stewardess, I speak Jive"

[Neilk]

That first picture looks like an exit row. And the second pictures shows you can still be touchy freely if you want despite the fixed armrest.

Nice try though.

[red-beard]

Yes, but she said Donald flipped up the arm rest.

[island911]

And 1980...

[island911]

Originally Posted by Neilk

That first picture looks like an exit row. And the second pictures shows you can still be touchy freely if you want despite the fixed armrest.

Nice try though.

So you like the tabloid smears, do ya?

Have you ever heard the term Conformational Bias?

I am amazed at the ease some people bite on stories that they want to be true.

Don't read this: witness comes forward to refute sex assault claim | New York Post
For it will clash with your conformational bias.
And certainly do not read this http://www.infowars.com/busted-trump-sex-allegations-full-of-holes/

[sc_rufctr]

He upset the Clinton's and that's it. It's really that simple.

[Chocaholic]

I heard there was a gent from London seated directly across the aisle. Recognized The Donald and remembers the young lady trying to flirt with DT in an obvious fashion. DT was having none of it. I wonder what that lady is being paid to passionately claim the opposite 30+ years later.

No worries, I'm sure CNN and NBC will cover that side of the story so their viewers will have a complete picture. That would be good journalism. Oh, wait....never mind.

[pavulon]

It's confirmational bias, not conformational bias. Your mistake is quintessentially Freudian.

Why did you not post this in PARF where it belongs?

Originally Posted by island911

So you like the tabloid smears, do ya?

Have you ever heard the term Conformational Bias?

I am amazed at the ease some people bite on stories that they want to be true.

Don't read this: witness comes forward to refute sex assault claim | New York Post
For it will clash with your conformational bias.
And certainly do not read this Busted: Trump Sex Allegations Full of Holes » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

[island911]

Originally Posted by pavulon

It's confirmational bias, not conformational bias. Your mistake is quintessentially Freudian.

Why did you not post this in PARF where it belongs?

Because this is a TABLOID story, devoid of politics. Well if you can separate out who orchestrated these TABLOID fabrications, and why. Then we are left with understanding the clues that make these fabrications fall apart. Such as the physical space of first-class seating.

oh, and I did mean to write conformational bias; as the reaction of so many is to Conform to a popular outrage narrative du jour. Such people are terrified that display of critical (or independent) thinking will -out- them as nonconforming, and lead to their shunning by the herd. --Fearful, they conform to whatever popular promulgated narrative comes along.

For example, some people get bent if they see a word in a place that they don't expect. They say, No no.. THAT is the wrong word. You made a mistake. All because they can't handle deviation / non-conformance.

But thanks for noticing.

[pavulon]

ahh...my apologies for not grasping the cutting edge terminology and insight.

[DaveE]

I googled "first class armrests". There were planes that had folding first class armrests back then, particularly on the smaller planes flying into LaGuardia at the time in question. Nice try though .

[island911]

Originally Posted by pavulon

ahh...my apologies for not grasping the cutting edge terminology and insight.

I have to say, I wasn't sure anyone would notice. --thought I would be using it for a while before anyone said anything.

BTW, because you seem interested in details, you said It's confirmational bias, not conformational bias. --what you were trying to correct to is actually confirmation bias. (no "al")

[island911]

Originally Posted by DaveE

I googled "first class armrests". There were planes that had folding first class armrests back then, particularly on the smaller planes flying into LaGuardia at the time in question. Nice try though .

The story she tells is of a Braniff 707 out of Dallas - Braniff had no 707's out of Dallas then. (727's) http://www.departedflights.com/BN102879p52.html

Braniff 727's had the huge unfolding first class armrests.

A Brit on that flight remembered the coach woman because she was painfully hitting on the rich guy she got sat next to.

The woman could have said that the aircraft was a flying saucer, and she was alien-probed, and you would insist it so. --"The alien was an octopus being, probing my every crevice..

It's so fun to be outraged by these stories. They set the lil pea-brains all a twitter. (or Facebook)

[pavulon]

Originally Posted by island911

BTW, because you seem interested in details, you said It's confirmational bias, not conformational bias. --what you were trying to correct to is actually confirmation bias. (no "al")

Would hope that once called to attention, most would a) find the various sorts of biases really interesting, and b) wonder how many apply to themselves, how often and where/when.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

[island911]

FWIW, I am/was disgusted and depressed by the outcomes of the primaries. I plan on protesting all POTUS choices this round.

Now I sit back and watch. One has a positive message (even if he's Yugely* FOS) the other is all negative, all the time. But at least she is massively lawless and covering. Impressively she juggles both worlds, while manufacturing even more false narratives. --impressive vortex of destruction.

*sic ( I know you expected Hugely)

[KNS]

Another 707 interior shot

[island911]

Nice ^ Coach ^

Obviously.

[island911]

What a time that must have been; the Jet age. So much good life with a culture focused on advancing the middle class via technology.

Our generation has cell phones and information a plenty. --Information can be a good thing. Albeit an abyss. (see my sig)

[Neilk]

Originally Posted by KNS

Another 707 interior shot

Off topic to the real conversation, but that is a staged picture... no one is smoking! I can't actually believe people were allowed to smoke on planes.

I remember being on a plane when they allowed smoking and some poor soul was seated in the "non smoking" section albeit one row removed. He had a fit when the guy behind him blew the smoke over his seat.


One more thing... they sure are white. No wonder Trump supporters glamorize the 50s