WTH is wrong w Mustang drivers?

[thingmon]

Has anyone done this with their kids?

Tire Rack Street Survival Teen Driving School

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by john70t

I still like video 'games', but the 'simulators' are so much better.
I played the Need For Speed series but noticed the invincible bumper car was affecting my perception of reality: Solid objects were no longer threats (yikes), there was no permanent damage from collisions, and abusing the controls and capabilities was normal and expected.
The GrandPrixLegends/GPL series is the exact opposite: It requires precision and careful attention to stay within the range at speed. It is unforgiving and sometimes even finishing the race course is a victory sometimes. Make a mistake and it's instant game over.

I've always wanted Drivers Ed to have simulators covering every real-life complex scenario and how applicants react:
-Car doors suddenly opening.
-Children and pet running across the street in front of stopped cars in other lanes.
-Speeding traffic from the sides when entering a throughway.
-Who has right-of way in various situations.
-Highway behavior and when to pass or not.
-A mix of impatient/reckless/slow/normal vehicles.
-etc

That sim is available, but I forgot the name of it. With a decent wheel (G25/27) it would be good enough to show them how little time you really have.

[McLovin]

Originally Posted by pmax

Sounds like the Mustang was out of control swerving like these.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mustang+cars+coffee+crash

Or this

[osidak]

Originally Posted by thingmon

Has anyone done this with their kids?

Tire Rack Street Survival Teen Driving School

Need to look more into that - never heard of it. I had been planning to put my son through this one

https://putonthebrakes.org/

[pwd72s]

Proof that Scotty was right...you cannot exceed the laws of physics, Captain....

You'd have thought Magnus was old enough to know better...evidently not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfZ12UGiisM

[ckelly78z]

I drive a 2004 GT mustng Convertible as a daily driver, and find that the most important thing in keeping me safe is to have patience. It's very tempting to pass someone going 5-10 mph under, or pull out from a side road with too little gap, or even try to accelerate too hard in rain.

At 51, I know, and have seen the results of too little patience, but as a new driver, these kids need to test the limits of everything, and aren't known for their patience. A 400 HP Mustang is beyond their limits of control, and can get ugly in a heartbeat.

[Tobra]

Sounds like it is more the driver than the car.

This sort of thing tended to be pickup trucks in Texas.

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by T77911S

even more so with a 930.'
a very subtle foot is needed.
had it sideways several times under gas. lift enough to keep the wheels spinning but not so much that it goes on around.
also had it sideways going into a turn the other day. getting time to replace the tires


traction control in these new cars is the confidence builder. then the limits are exceeded beyond traction control.
my boss use to brag about how good a driver he was in his vette. I told him turn off the traction control and lets go race,

Agreed, TC, ESP and ABS all keeps people from learning the handling at slower speeds, so when something happens at faster speeds and the puter can't compute, they are F'ed

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Tobra

Sounds like it is more the driver than the car.

This sort of thing tended to be pickup trucks in Texas.

Which in a way is almost like a 400 hp whatever. Decent power (torque), RWD, usually low gearing, and very little weight over the rear, means it's easy to find yourself having broken traction in the rear.