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Survival spoon for pilots and others?
As featured in the most recent American Rifleman
https://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/u-s-survival-ar-7/
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12-25-2016, 10:08 AM
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Total piece of junk. At least the HENRY version. I couldn't stand mine and sold it. I'd rather have a .22 pistol or revolver than this thing in my survival gear ...
I exchanged it for a break down ruger 10/22. Not as light, but you can hit something smaller than a barn with it ... G |
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I think a quality .22 pistol or revolver in stainless steel would be my choice. Lighter, more compact, as accurate.
That, and I've expressed my opinion of Henry products here in the past. I'm not surprised that they can take an already cheap and cheesey design and make it even more so.
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I like my Keltec Sub-2000. Not pretty, not what I'd call a pleasure to shoot, but very simple, compact and reliable. Also, being chambered in 9mm, it is powerful enough for most tasks, and the ammo is very easy to come by.
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Maybe I should have elaborated. My chief complaint is that the receiver is largely made out of aluminum and wears tremendously against the steel bolt, making the rifle unreliable and wearing it out very quickly. The trigger is terrible, the bolt doesn't stay open, the butt plate doesn't come off without serious prying, you can't install a scope without making it non-collapsible, etc.
Maybe you could justify packing it if you don't shoot it except in an emergency and needed to save every ounce, like on a light weight plane or a backpacking trip. Most people do want to go plink during camping or use it for hunting, not just survival. There, you have a lot more quality choices ... On accuracy: 2" groups at 50 yards are not what I achieved. In my hands the 10/22 feels an order of magnitude more accurate. G Last edited by aigel; 12-25-2016 at 05:49 PM.. |
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Plink for camping? Browning made a great takedown .22...dunno if they still do.
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Confession...I haven't bought any new "spoons" for decades. For an accurate .22 rifle, still have my old Remington "targetmaster" .22 single shot. Dad bought it from a local game cop for my 12th birthday. No idea how old it is since it has no serial number. Evidently, none required when it was made. An old timer at the rifle & pistol club range thought it was made in the 1940's.
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If you can afford a plane, you can afford something a little classier, like this
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"Like the original Henry U.S. Survival Rifle......"
I would have said Armalite made the original. Then Charter Arms made them for while, now Henry has the rights to the design.
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12-26-2016, 08:48 AM
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I've never felt the need to carry when flying even when over some pretty remote places - eastern OR and WA, ID and MT as well as northeast CA and northern NV. There's a helluva lot of nothing out there and you're better off carrying a kit with some water, a good first aid kit, the means to make fire, and make sure you file a flight plan (if VFR) and check your doggone ELT before you take off! The legal morass about transport on aircraft including the mess of state-by-state (and local) laws makes it not worth it. Even if you do all the planning, things happen and it'd suck to have to divert someplace and run afoul of some podunk local law and end up in hot water over it. |
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12-26-2016, 09:03 AM
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Not sure why a private pilot in the USA would need a gun unless you're planning on tossing someone out of the plane and you need some persuasion(?)
 In a military/war situation, you'd want something a lot bigger than a .22. I remember reading during Operation Desert Storm that pilots were carrying Glocks because they were the most dependable piece around w sand in them. Not sure whether it was true but coincidentally was about the time I became a fan and bought my first one.
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Wow! The Browning takedowns are pricey. I need to look into a takedown 10/22. I've had an AR7 for quite a while in the BOB with 2 bricks of ammo. The 10/22 takedown wasn't out when I picked up the AR7.
The AR7 does feel "cheap". A Browning in 308 would be a nice addition, except for the price.
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the stable a few years ago
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