Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Bill Douglas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: bottom left corner of the world
Posts: 22,763
THAT'S why I don't have any friends.

Porsche drivers are seen as 'unlikeable and disloyal' | Daily Mail Online

Old 01-21-2017, 03:18 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Home of the Whopper
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Rocky Top, TN
Posts: 6,836
Garage
Not sure I can blame it on the Porsche, I'm just a dk.
__________________
1968 912 coupe
1971 911E Targa rustbucket
1972 914 1.7
1987 924S
Old 01-21-2017, 04:01 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
pwd72s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Linn County, Oregon
Posts: 48,533
Car "image" is a weird thing. I can say that generally speaking, car guys seem to be friendlier towards me in the Mustang than they were in the 911. I'm not meaning at cars and coffee events, just regular guys coming up to me to talk cars when I'm buying gas, etc.

One guy on the Bullitt posting board had an interesting experience. He & his wife had driven from the snow belt to California to escape winter for a spell. A stranger approached, asked how he liked his Bullitt. The usual 10-15 minutes conversation ensued. As they we parting, he stuck his hand out, introduced himself. The stranger replied; "Chad McQueen".

So, somewhere out there is a Bullitt Mustang with a real McQueen signature on it's dash.
__________________
"Now, to put a water-cooled engine in the rear and to have a radiator in the front, that's not very intelligent."
-Ferry Porsche (PANO, Oct. '73) (I, Paul D. have loved this quote since 1973. It will remain as long as I post here.)
Old 01-21-2017, 04:27 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
Craig T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Ventura County, CA
Posts: 4,018
There's a big difference in peoples attitudes toward old Porsches and newer ones too. When I had the Viper Green long-hood people would come up to me all the time. They'd ask "what year is that" or "cool color". In the 997 Turbo, nobody gives me a second glance. In the long-hood people would wave or give thumbs up the freeway. In the Turbo I get tailgated and cut-off constantly.

It seems the opposite with Porsche owners. The Early 911 Registry and R-Gruppe crowd are the most stuck-up bunch of elitists I've ever met.
__________________
Craig T

Volvo V60 - Daily Driver (I love it!)
997 Turbo - FVD Exhaust, GIAC Tune - 542 dyno hp on 93 oct
1972 Chevy K-10 Pick-Up Truck Hugger Orange

Last edited by Craig T; 01-21-2017 at 04:59 PM..
Old 01-21-2017, 04:54 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: west michigan
Posts: 26,724
Quote:
Originally Posted by BK911 View Post
Not sure I can blame it on the Porsche, I'm just a dk.
Ditto!!
__________________
78 SC Targa Black....gone
84 Carrera Targa White
98 Honda Prelude
22 Honda Civic SI
Old 01-21-2017, 04:57 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
ckissick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: the beach
Posts: 5,149
Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig T View Post

It seems the opposite with Porsche owners. The Early 911 Registry and R-Gruppe crowd are the most stuck-up bunch of elitists I've ever met.
I don't know about that, but I do know this: the 912 people are the most down to earth group there is, at least among Porsche owners.
__________________
Charlie
1966 912 Polo Red
1950 VW Bug
1983 VW Westfalia; 1989 VW Syncro Tristar Doka
Old 01-21-2017, 10:53 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 15,612
Even if it's a Boxster?
Old 01-21-2017, 11:49 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
VFR750's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Windsor, CT
Posts: 2,119
I have had some truely enjoyable encounters this past year while commuting in my SC. I always have my windows down so I can't ignore comments

Young kid in his car, some filled with freinds, pulls alongside and shouts "what is that?" "What year?"

I answer nicely with a smile. (They have zero exposure to these cars here in the Hartford area. They are just car guys seeing something odd.)

Light turns green, and they shout back a compliment.

I smile even more and thank them.

I do think being in an old SC invites more positive reactions. But driving an old car is more of an event than just getting someplace. So in that regard, I am much more willing to engage in random conversation.

is it just Porsche drivers who are rude? Or just easy to point your finger at the Porsche. What about other marks? If you pulled up to a random person at a gas station and started to ask about how they liked their CRV, they'd be justifiably worried. Or not. Probably depends on many factors that you might never know.

Do these studies confuse correlation with causation?

I also own a 2015 Chevy Colorado. I get questions from random people all the time. It's a very good looking truck and currently very popular. I act just like I do with the SC. Answer questions ask them a few. Exchange pleasantries and move on. I leave the conversation a little happier. I think the other person is a little happier too.
Old 01-22-2017, 05:35 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
VFR750's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Windsor, CT
Posts: 2,119
But maybe I missed the point of the OP and followed a tangent too far.

Were the men just jealous and intimidated by the Porsche owner. Hence less likable. "Competitor" who did better? Do we discount the effort needed, and probably the single mindedness.

Perceived as Less loyal? Was this ever quantified? When was your loyalty compromised by sudden new Porsche ownership? How many times did your ex-friend, aka new Porsche owner, stab you in the back? Numbers please!

Ford Fiesta, So more likable. Do the respondents have more friends with fords than Porsches? Statistically this must be true. So is it really a question?

Does it really matter?
Old 01-22-2017, 06:00 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Sherwood, OR
Posts: 4,679
Garage
I think there is more than "car culture divide" in that article. The study was done at a German university...
Old 01-22-2017, 07:29 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Driver
 
Noah930's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: gone
Posts: 17,439
Garage
Quote:
Men perceived the Porsche driver as more attractive, flirtier, more intelligent, more ambitious, and having a higher status.
Men?! What about women?! Do women perceive me as such, too?

Worthless study. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
__________________
1987 Venetian Blue (looks like grey) 930 Coupe
1990 Black 964 C2 Targa
Old 01-22-2017, 10:16 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Recreational Mechanic
 
Nickshu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Northern Colorado, USA
Posts: 3,326
Garage
I my Corvair I get mobbed with people everywhere I take it. Everyone loves the car and wants to talk about it. In the Lotus (which is bright orange) it's about the same... Everyone wants their pictures taken with it.

When I had my 911SC noone ever paid attention to me.... I kinda miss that. Be careful what you wish for LOL!

Sent from my Samsung GS7 using Tapatalk
__________________
P Cars: 2022 Macan GTS / One empty garage space ---- Other cars: 2019 Golf R 6MT / 2021 F-250 Diesel / 2024 Toyota GR86 6MT ---- Gone: 1997 Spec Boxster Race Car, 2020 GT4, 2004 GT3, 2003 Carrera, 1982 911SC, 2005 Lotus Elise and lots of other non-Porsches
PCA National DE Instructor #202106053 / PCA Club Racing / WRL Endurance Racing
Old 01-22-2017, 10:24 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Kraftwerk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Northside, Brooklyn
Posts: 2,357
The 914 caused a laugh-riot of love and affection when ever I drove it. Sold it.












.....not as reliable as the rest of this list (below signature) >
__________________
jt
'83 SC
'96 M3
6 Bicycles

2 Sailboats
Old 01-22-2017, 09:05 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
White and Nerdy
 
Tervuren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: South of Charlotte N.C.
Posts: 14,923
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by VFR750 View Post
I have had some truely enjoyable encounters this past year while commuting in my SC. I always have my windows down so I can't ignore comments

Young kid in his car, some filled with freinds, pulls alongside and shouts "what is that?" "What year?"

I answer nicely with a smile. (They have zero exposure to these cars here in the Hartford area. They are just car guys seeing something odd.)

Light turns green, and they shout back a compliment.

I smile even more and thank them.

I do think being in an old SC invites more positive reactions. But driving an old car is more of an event than just getting someplace. So in that regard, I am much more willing to engage in random conversation.

is it just Porsche drivers who are rude? Or just easy to point your finger at the Porsche. What about other marks? If you pulled up to a random person at a gas station and started to ask about how they liked their CRV, they'd be justifiably worried. Or not. Probably depends on many factors that you might never know.

Do these studies confuse correlation with causation?

I also own a 2015 Chevy Colorado. I get questions from random people all the time. It's a very good looking truck and currently very popular. I act just like I do with the SC. Answer questions ask them a few. Exchange pleasantries and move on. I leave the conversation a little happier. I think the other person is a little happier too.
The 944, gets a lot of attention if I drive it during hours people are around. Either "That was the car I wanted in high school", or people with no idea what it is.

That former group, makes me think the 944 might get a short lasting bubble market if those wanting in high school all try to get one at once when the kids are done with college and out of the house.

So long as the imitation fuchs are cleaned up nice, it doesn't seem to matter at all that my '86 944 is dented from wrecks before I bought it, or badly needs a new paint job to be presentable. It still gets a stream of "nice car" conversations even in its battered paint and body work.

I drove won a drawing to temporarily take home a 2015 Porsche 911 in October 2015, I was surprised at how that car got noticed, but in a different way, and by a completely different set of people.

I think the reasons people buy Porsche's changed, and because of that, I tend to tune out modern Porsche's when I see them. I did really love the current generation 911 despite my expectations. It'd make a near perfect daily driver.
__________________
Shadilay.

Last edited by Tervuren; 01-22-2017 at 09:43 PM..
Old 01-22-2017, 09:37 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Get off my lawn!
 
GH85Carrera's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 85,042
Garage
Was this survey done by the same research group that said Hillary had a 97% chance of winning?

So many surveys are just totally useless. When any surveyors call me I don't answer or hang up. I figure only only stupid people bother to take surveys so the results of the survey are stupid as well.
__________________
Glen
49 Year member of the Porsche Club of America
1985 911 Carrera; 2017 Macan
1986 El Camino with Fuel Injected 350 Crate Engine
My Motto: I will never be too old to have a happy childhood!
Old 01-23-2017, 04:42 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Registered
 
Deschodt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: CA
Posts: 5,861
Quote:
Originally Posted by ckissick View Post
I don't know about that, but I do know this: the 912 people are the most down to earth group there is, at least among Porsche owners.
Well you can't afford to be a prick while driving a porsche with less hp than a Chevy Aveo ;-) I jest, I had 2 912s and it's a nice community...

My experience with people / long hoods is not all that great, they still see it a Porsche and at best ignore it... The bmw 2002 or the Alfa however draw genuine smiles all the time, the bimmer especially... The porsche brings disdain... And those people don't know I'm a prick !!! ;-)
Old 01-23-2017, 07:34 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered
 
t-tom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Roeland Park KS
Posts: 1,838
You know it's kind of funny, We went to a PCA meeting here in Kansas City a few years ago and not a single person talked to us. It was like we had the plague because we weren't in a new Porsche.
__________________
"Inside every old person is a young person saying WTF happened"

If guns cause crime, all mine are defective. Ted Nugent
1983 911 SC 1978 Land Cruiser FJ40 2001 Tundra
1971 Datsun Fairlady Z RHD (240z)
Old 01-23-2017, 07:54 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Registered
 
pwd72s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Linn County, Oregon
Posts: 48,533
Yeats ago, my old Pen Pal Howard Shoemaker wrote; "You can tell there's a PCA dinner meeting by all the Japanese cars in the parking lot."
__________________
"Now, to put a water-cooled engine in the rear and to have a radiator in the front, that's not very intelligent."
-Ferry Porsche (PANO, Oct. '73) (I, Paul D. have loved this quote since 1973. It will remain as long as I post here.)
Old 01-23-2017, 08:35 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Registered
 
Craig T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Ventura County, CA
Posts: 4,018
Quote:
Originally Posted by t-tom View Post
You know it's kind of funny, We went to a PCA meeting here in Kansas City a few years ago and not a single person talked to us. It was like we had the plague because we weren't in a new Porsche.
That's not the case in the Santa Barbara Region. Weekend tours and events have everything from rusty 914's to Carrera GT's and everybody get's along great. It's an even spread across the years and models, with SC's and 996's taking top the bulk of the parking lot.
__________________
Craig T

Volvo V60 - Daily Driver (I love it!)
997 Turbo - FVD Exhaust, GIAC Tune - 542 dyno hp on 93 oct
1972 Chevy K-10 Pick-Up Truck Hugger Orange
Old 01-23-2017, 08:45 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Kessel run in 12 parsecs!
 
Fast Freddy 944's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: DFW Texas
Posts: 3,360
Garage
Drive a 944, I always get thumbs up when I fart around town....

Old 01-23-2017, 08:47 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:37 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.