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unclebilly 04-10-2017 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by atcjorg (Post 9545831)
apples and oranges, If I invite you to my house I will feed you, even if it is what I was going to eat. What you are not comprehending is that United is running an airline, all airlines can overbook or were you not aware of that? now say you asked me for a ride to the airport and i was taking my family too but the suburban breaks and all I have left is my 530i I then decide that you will have to call a cab or uber or whatever else and you say no im not getting out of the car guess what? I will drag your dumb ass out of the car. end of story

Apples and oranges... in this case, I already paid you for gas for the ride to the airport.SmileWavy

red-beard 04-10-2017 02:54 PM

Still better than flying

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hardflex 04-10-2017 03:14 PM

Fly the Friendly Skies...... LOL

United Airlines won't survive this fiasco.

sammyg2 04-10-2017 03:17 PM

APR 10 2017, 5:23 PM ET
United Airlines CEO Apologizes After Video Shows Man Dragged Off Flight
by DANIELLA SILVA and KURT CHIRBAS

The CEO of United Airlines apologized to customers on Monday following an incident on an overbooked flight where video appeared to show an elderly man being dragged from his seat and through the aisle of a plane.

Several videos posted on social media appeared to show three law enforcement officers pull a screaming man from his seat on the plane and then drag him by the arms down the aisle as shocked passengers look on. A witness told NBC News the ordeal began after the airline said the flight was overbooked and asked four customers to leave the plane and take a flight the following day.


"This is an upsetting event to all of us here at United," CEO Oscar Munoz said in a statement. "I apologize for having to re-accommodate these customers. Our team is moving with a sense of urgency to work with authorities and conduct our own detailed review of what happened."

"We are also reaching out to this passenger to talk directly to him and further address and resolve this situation," he added in the statement.

The Chicago Department of Aviation said in a statement Monday afternoon that the incident was "not in accordance with" standard operating procedure and the officer's actions were "not condoned" by the department. The officer involved was placed on administrative leave effective Monday pending review of the situation, the department said.

The Chicago Police Department said in a statement earlier Monday that around 6 p.m. on Sunday, a 69-year-old passenger "became irate" after he was asked to leave the plane.

"The passenger in question began yelling to voice his displeasure at which point Aviation Police were summoned," police said in the statement.

Image: Security stand in the aisle before forcibly removing a United Airlines passenger from a plane

Police claimed the officers were attempting to carry the man off the flight "when he fell.
"

"His head subsequently struck an armrest causing injuries to his face," police said, adding that the man was taken to a hospital and treated for non-life threatening injuries. An investigation into the incident was still ongoing.

Multiple attempts to reach the Department of Aviation for comment were not immediately returned.

Tyler Bridges, who posted video of the incident on Twitter, told NBC News he and his wife were on the United plane at O'Hare International Airport from Chicago to Louisville on Sunday when a flight attendant said the flight was overbooked and four people would have to leave to make room for airline employees.

Bridges said the flight attendant offered an $800 voucher for anyone who would volunteer to get off the flight and leave the following day at 3 p.m.

"Nobody moved, nobody got up," he said.

When no one volunteered, Bridges said, a gate agent told them the airline had used an algorithm to randomly select four people to get off the plane
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First, a young couple was asked to leave and, "they're not happy, but they get off. No problem," Bridges said.

Then the unidentified man in the video was asked to leave, Bridges said.

"He says he's a doctor and has to be in Louisville in the morning to see patients," he said. "He says he can't be delayed a day."

The agent then said if the man did not leave, she was going to call security, according to Bridges.

The man refused, prompting a verbal exchange with law enforcement officers, Bridges said.

One of them "walks down the aisle and starts yelling at the man. He grabs him, throws him out of his seat and they drag him off," Bridges said.

"Everyone is disturbed," Bridges said. "It was kind of a dramatic scene."

After the man was dragged away, the four United employees boarded the flight, he said.

But a few minutes later, the man who was removed from the flight ran back on the plane, saying he needed to get back home.

"Somehow he got back on," Bridges said. "He runs back on — dazed, bloodied, kind of in a mess — yelling 'I have to get home, I have to get home.'"

The man was removed on a stretcher, "resisting the whole time," Bridges said.

It was unclear how the man returned to the plane and what happened after he was removed.

United confirmed in a statement late Sunday that a passenger was removed from the overbooked flight.

"Flight 3411 from Chicago to Louisville was overbooked. After our team looked for volunteers, one customer refused to leave the aircraft voluntarily and law enforcement was asked to come to the gate," the company said in a statement.

We are here to keep you #united Dragging is strictly prohibited pic.twitter.com/CSjZD7fM4J
— Royal Jordanian (@RoyalJordanian) April 10, 2017
The company apologized for the overbooking situation and referred additional comment to authorities.

Bridges said passengers felt the man had been wronged.

"Airlines overbook flights all the time — that's not uncommon," Bridges said. "But everyone felt that they had wronged the man."

The flight was delayed three hours as a result of the incident, he added.

The incident comes just two weeks after United faced a public relations storm after two girls who were traveling as family or friends of airline employees were denied entry on a flight for wearing leggings.

Tervuren 04-10-2017 03:22 PM

The easiest way to avoid a storm like this; don't over book the last flight of a day on the last day of a weekend.

M.D. Holloway 04-10-2017 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 9545309)
So they get him off the plane then they start the negotiations after he loses his leverage? They should just make an announcement, "Who wants to give up their seats for $200?" No response...... "do I hear $250"???

Few years ago on a Delta flight they came on and wanted volunteers to give up seats for $300. No takers. They went to $400. I raised my hand and stood up and made my way down the aisle. As I left the jet bridge I went to the counter and they Delta folks thanked me and began the paper work and also told me they would comp a room and give me a $15 voucher for breakfast. I asked how high they are allowed to go and they told me as high as $800. I said, "Listen, it won't take any money out of your pocket and it sure would ease my pain a whole bunch more for not being able to see my kids another night so what say we just make that for $800 and we all go away feeling really good about this"?

She smiled and made it out for $800.

if it was United I would have gotten a fat lip...

LakeCleElum 04-10-2017 03:40 PM

Flying just Sux anymore. One more reason I just drove 2,300 miles round trip for the wife to see her grandkids on spring break.......

Baz 04-10-2017 04:44 PM

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URY914 04-10-2017 04:44 PM

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/reduce-chances-getting-dragged-off-united-flight-152105288.html

Baz 04-10-2017 04:49 PM

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Baz 04-10-2017 04:50 PM

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Baz 04-10-2017 04:51 PM

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craigster59 04-10-2017 05:30 PM

There's a big difference between aviation and food service. I book a table at a restaurant and it gets given away, I'm pissed and expect to keep my table.

Flights are a BIG difference. They spin the bottle, you get asked to leave, you leave. Heck, my name comes up in the "GTFO" lottery, I'd look at it as a sign of a doomed flight. My "Guardian Angel" doesn't screw up very often.

SoCal911T 04-10-2017 05:37 PM

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stealthn 04-10-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickysa (Post 9545325)
Nowhere in their posted policy says they have the right to forcibly remove a seated passenger. Keeping them from boarding, yes, but not forcibly remove.

That was f***ing assault.

Agreed

atcjorg 04-10-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 9545856)
Apples and oranges... in this case, I already paid you for gas for the ride to the airport.SmileWavy

and i'll return it with a substantial benefit

legion 04-10-2017 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tcar (Post 9545756)
Jurors CANNOT decide a law is unjust. They're supposed to be BLIND.

Only can decide if a law has or has not been violated.

Ever serve on a jury?

Um, that's exactly WHY we have juries--to prevent unjust laws from having any effect. I understand that judges and prosecutors have a vested interest in hiding this fact from jurors. Ever hear of jury nullification?

Have I served on a jury? No. They never seem to pick me. I think it's my streak of independent thinking that turns off prosecutors. SmileWavy

A930Rocket 04-10-2017 06:40 PM

"Re-accommodate" LOL

"This is an upsetting event to all of us here at United," CEO Oscar Munoz said in a statement. "I apologize for having to re-accommodate these customers.

legion 04-10-2017 06:50 PM

Police are filmed dragging man off United Airlines flight | Daily Mail Online

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An airport cop who body-slammed a United passenger and dragged him off an overbooked flight was put on leave today - as his bosses condemned his actions amid mounting outrage over video of the incident.

The Chicago Department of Aviation said it 'obviously' did not condone the behavior of the security officer who was filmed slamming the man into an arm rest, knocking him unconscious and dragging him away by his arms as he bled from the mouth at O'Hare.

United is facing growing anger after they selected the 69-year-old man - who claimed to be a doctor - to be bumped from the overbooked flight to Louisville to make room for its staff on Sunday night.

The airline's CEO apologized today even as new video emerged of the man, who had refused to leave the flight, bleeding heavily from the mouth and mumbling about suicide in the aftermath of his brutal treatment.

In the clip, the dazed man chants 'just kill me, just kill me' as blood pours from his mouth.

It seems to have been filmed after another clip that shows the victim somehow broke free from the airport cops and ran back onto the plane chanting 'I need to go home, I need to go home.'
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The Chicago Police department, which operates separately, had earlier risked controversy by claiming that the man 'fell' into the armrest.
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Their statement released on Sunday night said: 'Aviation Officers arrived on scene attempted to carry the individual off of the flight when he fell. His head subsequently struck an armrest causing injuries to his face.'

It claimed that the man had begun yelling his displeasure at being selected to leave and was taken to hospital with non life-threatening injuries.

Today the department retreated from the statement, referring all enquiries to the Aviation Department.
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Passengers screamed 'my god what are you doing' and 'this is wrong' as the man was yanked from his seat. He appeared to go limp after being slammed against a headrest and one passenger said he was 'knocked out'.


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