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Originally posted by Brad Roberts
Romp on the loud pedal and it seperates the men from the boys real quick.

I set the rev limiter at 7200.

Try romping on the loud pedal of a full race stroker 410ci 351w with 650HP on the motor alone and a small (250HP) shot of juice just for fun :D My rev limiter even with a 4 inch stroke is set at 8000 cam lift over .700" and duration at .050" over 310 with 13.5:1 compression it's a blast to be sure but my lowly P-car with a carbed 3.0 is just as fun if not more so. V8s and H6s are totally different animals and each has their good and bad points for me the good point of the 410 in my Mustang is it really is a racecar and I get the total racecar experience that I wouldn't get with a smaller turbo/super-charged V6 or V8. In the P-car I get a whole different experience, almost like I'm driving a F1 car with smooth and quick revs, a unique sound etc. If I ever decide I need a V8 sportscar I'll get a Pantera or a Shelby Cobra. Several years ago I drove a track-prepped Shelby GT350 Mustang and got a similar experience to what the P-car gives me, it's that little bit of nostalgia combined with race heritage that makes these totally different cars so enjoyable to drive. To me the engine is a big part of the experience that makes a 911 a 911 and I wouldn't have it any other way. I think that's how a lot of P-car owners feel and it's a big reason we'll spend 10x more money on HP upgrades than we would on a V8. To each his own to be sure but I'll keep the flat six over any other option. ;)

In pre-BBS times, I wonder if the AC Ace purists would have given Carroll Shelby as hard a time...

The thread that just keeps on giving. :rolleyes: -- Curt

I say let it give; judging by the posts, it touches ALOT of nerves on this site. Isn't that what a discussion board is all about?

Just when you think it's dead, the V8 post rears its ugly head!

AC ace owners???

ask them....

http://www.racecar.co.uk/acoc/intro.htm

sjd

Just a quick update.

The yellow v8 911 seen earlier is still alive and well.

Brakes have gotten bigger, full cage is going in soon. Dual MC with NASCAR type calipers. Very nice SBC with roller rockers, alum heads, etc.

Away, car handles well at the track, running about 1.54s at CMP.

V8 guys.
Please e-mail me privately. I have some questions. Best to discuss these things underground.:D

This thread just never dies! I wonder how long before someone tries to wedge a Cayanne v8 in a 911.

You know I wish those CRAZY Porsche engineers would have thought of this earlier. Just buy GM V8's at wholesale cost and install them into 996's and then I'd be able to afford to buy a new one for about $30G's WOW!!!!:p

Your wish may come true.

I willing to bet a SBC that Porsche does a V8 996 in the near future.

B

Porsche to Chev conversion is nothing compared to this:

Mustang P51 Fighter Engine in 55 Chev!

Only in Australia................

http://www.rodshop.com.au/project55.htm

Whoah!! :eek: :eek:

I saw one of these motors in a drag boat a few years ago... enormous HP! Almost deserves it's own thread Victor...

subaru ej20 turbo for 911???

Guy suggests the ej20 turbo for the 911 or 914 in

this ad.

Anyone ever heard of this before? Ever been done? Is it 'relatively' easy? Maybe he was just suggesting it so he could ship it quickly.

Anthony.

except for running the plumbing, The engine is a "bolt on" with a Kennedy engineering adapter plate. I've talked to them about putting the 2.5L NA motor in my 912. but the 912 started running better (a little tuning, and too much oil were the culprits of rough running)...I can give you prices and thoughts...

what are you putting it in??

If you want to talk about this more, write me at sdrabant@durhamgeo.com

Be careful. this motor has the air to water intercooler. the EJ20T you want is the one with the air to air intercooler. this one might not necessarily have the 220 advertised HP. Besides there is no EJ20DET...that's nissan infection...it SR20DET...in subarus it's only EJ20t or EJ20TT (the twin turbo mill came in 'special' legacys.)

sjd
'98 Impreza 2.5RS
'98 Legacy Gt
'67 912
mechanical engineer / race engineer (part time)
WRX mechanic (part time)

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Originally posted by JackOlsen
Why does this always happen when V8 conversions come up? All sorts of things peole do to their Porsches -- aside from storing them inside a plastic bubble -- are not in the actual best interests of the cars. Track time dramatically increases the risks of damage being done to the cars -- from collisions and accidental mechanical over-revs more than anything else -- but also from the stresses of high-speed driving. Turbochargers and superchargers are a bad idea -- if preservation and longevity are part of your engineering goals. Turning a stock street car into a track car means ruining its stock value. Adding aftermarket suspension and brakes also turns it into a different car.

My point is this: 99% of the cars discussed on this board, in one way or another, are getting used, and modified, and subjected to -- if nothing else -- creeping metal fatigue on a daily basis. No one gets bent out of shape about the addition of enormous spoilers, or turbo flares, or any of the other modifications that also (generally) deteriorate the long-term integrity of the car. For some reason the V8 conversions make people nuts -- even when the converter doesn't boast (as no one in this thread did) about "how superior an alternative [the V8 mule] is to a 911."

Again, I am not a fan of V8 conversions. But then again, I'm not a fan of weekend wannabe racers putting the cars into walls and fenceposts, either. And I'm not a fan of the number of 911s that get junked every year because it's no longer economically viable to keep them running. Those are all bad things; they shrink the pool of available 'real' 911s for future generations. But why do people have to come down so hard on the V8 converters? I don't get it. A tiny minority of Porsche owners (and even a small minority of people on thie board) are really dedicated to doing everything in their powers to preserve the longevity of our cars. Most of us would much rather gamble it all and do the MOST dangerous thing you can do to a Porsche -- subject it to the risks of public roads and other drivers.

I don't want to start a flame war, here. But I am trying to suggest that when some of the tiny minority of Porsche owners who opt to do a non-Porsche engine swap decide to run a thread on a discussion board, we should give them a little break. It's going to be tough enough for them to get any respect in POC or PCA circles. Put any of us behind the wheel of our 911, and it's easy to forget: cars are still just cars. Porsches -- as great as they are -- are still mass-produced, consumer-oriented, four-passenger vehicles designed to get people to work, or to the store, or to grandmothers, and back again. They're not sacred cows. They are awesome cars. But they're just cars.

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Jack Olsen
1973 911 T sunroof coupe
http://members.rennlist.com/jackolsen/Jalopy.html

[This message has been edited by JackOlsen (edited 07-24-2000).]

Absolutely correct post, from a moderator even. Too bad some people can't get it.

Another interesting common thread in discussions about conversions (I got this from Rotary purists when I did my V8 RX7 converison, that also worked better than stock):

"without the Porsche (or insert car brand here) engine in it, it's crap/not a Porsche (or RX7, etc)." As though none of the rest of the car mattered at all. It's the ENGINE that made the car. I got told when I did my Ford 5.0 conversion in my RX7 that "If you wanted a Mustang, you should have BOUGHT a Mustang becasue now it's no better than a Mustang." COnsidering that they were trying to insult my car by insinuating that since a Mustang is a POS, then my car is too. I always respond with, "since you think the Mustang is so bad, and all I've done is change the engine, you must feel that other than the engine, the RX7 is built poorly, with bad ergonomics and no style."

Well, I know a dude here in New Zealand who has a 2.0 non-turbo Subaru flat 4 in his Kombi - it runs 13s on the quarter mile.

My only comment is that I might have to start buying engines in Japan and selling them in the US, 'cause I get the feeling the dudes prices are above NZ$ ones.

Only three more replies and we hit the magic 400 for this thread!

In the December Excellence they had a one page blip on the 2005 and 2006 porsche and it had rumored of a V8. Wow, would that throw a wrench into these discussions!!!

Hey ks911,

Thanks for sharing. Personally, I like both Porsches and Chevys. The small block should be a reliable runner for you with a lot of low end grunt. So what if it isn't everyone's cup of tea... it's your car and if it makes you happy, go for it.

I'm impressed that you managed to get it all together and that it works well for you. Putting together engines and cars that weren't designed to go together is a bigger project than I would be willing to do. SmileWavy