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URY914 11-23-2017 03:54 AM

I get the corrugated metal look but the problem is your cabinets work, bench and anything else won't fit tight up against the wall. Crap will be falling down between the corrugations. Also if the lower wall portion of the wall sticks out further than the top of the walls you'll have more of an issue mounting to the wall. You may not think its a big deal but just wait.

rfuerst911sc 11-23-2017 05:16 AM

Hey Paul Happy Thanksgiving........ I didn't mention but the corrugated metal panels will be capped with wood molding so no chance of anything falling between/behind . And all of my Gladiator cabinets are wall cabinets so no issue there . I do have two large tall cabinets but they are on wood bases with casters so again no issue there . Even if I have to space out the work bench a little I can put a 2 x 4 or 2 x 6 " backsplash " to cover the slight gap . But I appreciate the heads up .

rfuerst911sc 11-26-2017 09:20 AM

Another small piece of the puzzle purchased . Found a guy on CL selling corrugated galvanized metal panels cut to 43 " length . He had 40 pieces which is almost exactly what I need so it was meant to be :D . So I can check off the metal wainscote from the list . Still haven't heard from the concrete guy :eek:

rfuerst911sc 11-27-2017 05:58 AM

OK we finally heard from the concrete guy , planning on the pour for Wednesday ! Hope all goes as planned as I can really get some work done once the floor is poured . What is the general rule on how long it has to cure before foot traffic and construction type work can begin ?

Right now the heaviest items on the concrete would be piles of 2 x 6's , a table saw and a mitre box , a compressor and a generator . All of them are on wheels . I will ask the concrete guy but there are a lot of smart folks here .

URY914 11-27-2017 06:04 AM

How thick, 4"?

Couple of days.

rfuerst911sc 11-27-2017 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 9828038)
How thick, 4"?

Couple of days.

Hey Paul was hoping you'd chime in . The floor is 5.5 " thick overall with two pads aprox. 36 " x 36 " that are 9 " thick that is where the posts for the two post lift will reside . We have been getting a frost here at night I know he stated some calcium may be needed to be added .

908/930 11-27-2017 08:32 AM

After about six hrs you can walk on it, depending on temp. There will be lots of moisture trying to get out so avoid covering it with material for a couple of weeks, or keep moving the material around, close to full hardness in about 30 days, wait to drill for your lift.

Are you going to seal the floor? Easy to do before you have too much stored in there. Some sealers can be done soon after.

URY914 11-27-2017 09:50 AM

Did they add rebar at the thickened areas?

T77911S 11-27-2017 10:27 AM

take a look at I think it is the T5 HO bulbs. I put them in my garage, about $40 each.
its a real skinny bulb. compare the output to the LED

rfuerst911sc 11-27-2017 01:32 PM

Yeah the internet search made it sound like 6 - 8 hours after being finished you should be able to walk on it . I will leave it for at least two days before walking on it to be safe . Paul there is no " they " . I did all the prep , digging , leveling , spreading the gravel and putting down the vapor barrier . I did not put rebar in any of this . For the thicker areas I don't have good enough measurements on the width of the lift so was afraid of hitting the rebar when I go to drill for the lift mounting . That would be a real pain in the neck . Do you really think it is needed ?

rfuerst911sc 11-27-2017 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by T77911S (Post 9828326)
take a look at I think it is the T5 HO bulbs. I put them in my garage, about $40 each.
its a real skinny bulb. compare the output to the LED

Can those bulbs be used in conventional fixtures ?

javadog 11-27-2017 01:40 PM

You should've put rebar in the slab. If you didn't, I'm hoping you ordered the mix with fiber mesh in it. You need to try to keep the moisture in the concrete while it cures. Either keep it wet, or seal it with a product designed to help it cure. If there's any chance of it freezing in the next few days, you should put blankets on it to keep it from freezing.

URY914 11-27-2017 02:37 PM

The rebar would have helped prevent cracking between the thin and thick areas of the slab. Did you slope the transition in the dirt between thick/thin?

DanielDudley 11-27-2017 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 908/930 (Post 9828190)
After about six hrs you can walk on it, depending on temp. There will be lots of moisture trying to get out so avoid covering it with material for a couple of weeks, or keep moving the material around, close to full hardness in about 30 days, wait to drill for your lift.

Are you going to seal the floor? Easy to do before you have too much stored in there. Some sealers can be done soon after.

If you want it to cure properly, you need to cover it with plastic and let it stay wet for a week. At least three days. Make sure there is a vapor barrier under the slab. If there isn't moisture from the ground will wick right through.

908/930 11-27-2017 05:53 PM

I don't think there will be a problem with it drying too quick, freezing the surface sounds like the bigger problem, blankets would be a good idea, I have heard covering it with straw works, anything to insulate it, Daniel is quite right with keeping it under water is good for it especially if it was hot out, but it should stay soaked not dry then wet. I did mine that way, but it was much warmer out.

If you still have time some rebar placed near centre of the thickness of the slab where your lift will sit is a good idea, you can mark lines on the walls where they sit so you have some idea or rent a scan tool to find the rebar later, Bosch makes a inexpensive one that I have used that will detect metal about 4" deep.

rfuerst911sc 11-28-2017 02:25 AM

I did my best to taper the transition from 5.5 to 9 " it is NOT a squared off transition . And yes I ordered fiberglass reinforced concrete . When the concrete guy came out and looked everything over I asked about rebar and in his opinion it was not needed . Said he did his pole barn almost exactly the same way 10 years ago and no issues . He will be making stress relief cuts in the concrete . At this point I will move forward as is .

Assuming we pour tomorrow I'm more concerned with night time temp's . We have been hitting day time temp's of 60 - 65 but getting down to light frost temp's at night . If they get it poured in the morning and finish it off by afternoon it can start drying in the 60 degree temps . I will ask if covering it to protect from cold is needed .

rfuerst911sc 11-28-2017 03:10 AM

Just had a text conversation with concrete dude we are on for tomorrow and he has no concerns over current temp's or the extended forecast for the next few days . His family has been pouring concrete in this area for forty years and are very highly regarded by everyone I spoke to so I am confident of good results . I will try to post some pics tomorrow .

javadog 11-28-2017 03:17 AM

There are a zillion resources on the Internet that discuss all the ins and outs of proper concrete construction. It's pretty easy to learn what you need to know, and what questions you need to ask, by spending a few minutes reading through one of the sites. Here's a typical one:

https://www.concretenetwork.com/concrete/slabs/

URY914 11-28-2017 06:39 AM

You should be fine with fibermesh and tapered the transitions. It's only a 3.5" difference and over a 3' x 3' area.

Good luck- post pictures. SmileWavy

rfuerst911sc 11-28-2017 12:20 PM

Concrete truck scheduled to arrive @ 9:00 AM can't wait to get this party started !


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