Who did Matt Lauer grope?

[widgeon13]

OK, let's hear the theories!

[upsscott]

Please don't let it be AL Roker.

[widgeon13]

I was thinking he might go either way.

Maybe Caitlyn Jenner!

[berettafan]

you know I get the impression that Al Roker is the kind of guy who'd be like 'hey man, I'm not into that but good luck to you' and just move on.

[red-beard]

I started a thread on this over in PARF...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-politics-religion/979127-night-long-knives-continues-matt-lauer.html#post9830454

[Mike Andrew]

When do we start seeing men accusing women of inappropriate conduct? Or, would we never complain?

[Borders Reivers]

Classic double standard

[berettafan]

maybe soon. the days of power stemming from physical strength and manliness (slay the tiger and bring home the meat) are ending and it's entirely possible for men to be on the receiving end of abuse. the skinny jeans douche beard types are coming into power and things might change!

[widgeon13]

My wife just calmly suggested that someone might come forward and accuse me following my 35 year career of philandering in the paper industry. Ha ha

Believe me, I was an altar boy to the best of my recollection.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by berettafan

maybe soon. the days of power stemming from physical strength and manliness (slay the tiger and bring home the meat) are ending and it's entirely possible for men to be on the receiving end of abuse. the skinny jeans douche beard types are coming into power and things might change!

One of the young men that frequent the cigar lounge I go to is one of the least aggressive, and least macho guys I have ever met. One day I mentioned to him about what a nice guy he comes off as and he tells me this is one of the reasons the car dealership gave him a shot at selling cars, his non-threatening persona.

We had quite the conversation about this trend, and I am convinced the "slay the tiger and bring home the meat" era is over in many circles, but not everyone is ready for it.

Macho is fighting back and making it's last stand in some very high profile areas, but it's a last gasp I suspect.

[red-beard]

This has been an on-going discussion with my wife.

A few points:

1. Sexual Harassment is not just men of women - We had a woman -> man case at GE.
2. Sometimes the "power role" is not obvious. A woman can sleep with a married guy and now have "leverage" over him. (I'll tell your wife).
3. Many companies are ultra-anti-sexual harassment. Accusation is believed 100% with no evidence. You cannot get legal counsel.
4. You cannot confront the accused. Many times, the accuser is kept anonymous, supposedly to prevent retaliation.
5. He said/she said - without direct evidence (e-mails, photos, video), there most of the time is he said/she said.
6. The standard is not objective, but simply, "X feels offended".

[voron]

Libs are cleaning house. we need to get rid of that creep Moore.

[widgeon13]

with the alphabet soup of LBGT..., the line of demarcation is getting lighter. I seriously think we will see a surge in female on male abuse. You know the snowflakes can be offended easily.

[ckelly78z]

Originally Posted by berettafan

maybe soon. the days of power stemming from physical strength and manliness (slay the tiger and bring home the meat) are ending and it's entirely possible for men to be on the receiving end of abuse. the skinny jeans douche beard types are coming into power and things might change!

I just went to "Gabes" last night for some vacation clothes for our upcoming trip to Dominican Republic. I get there, and see nothing but a bunch of bearded wonders scouring the clearance racks with their backpacks in tow. I needed some nice khaki long pants, and had to try on 6 pairs before I found a nice pair that didn't hug my legs like skinny jeans do....Arghhh.

[Crowbob]

Originally Posted by kach22i

One of the young men that frequent the cigar lounge I go to is one of the least aggressive, and least macho guys I have ever met. One day I mentioned to him about what a nice guy he comes off as and he tells me this is one of the reasons the car dealership gave him a shot at selling cars, his non-threatening persona.

We had quite the conversation about this trend, and I am convinced the "slay the tiger and bring home the meat" era is over in many circles, but not everyone is ready for it.

Macho is fighting back and making it's last stand in some very high profile areas, but it's a last gasp I suspect.

You may be correct so long as we abide by the rule of law which is also emitting a death rattle with every breath.

[ckelly78z]

All is not lost on the bearded skinny jean wearing douchebags. A guy texted me yesterday morning asking about an 8 HP chipper/shredder that I had on Craigslist, and I was impressed that he actually followed through, showed up, and bought it. He was mid/late 20s, had played college football, lived on a farm, was buying the chipper to help clear his deer hunting feed lot, had a really strong work ethic (like mine), and a general contempt (like mine) of the way his generation was headed.

[URY914]

I could NEVER run for public office.

[RKDinOKC]

Got disciplined, week home without pay, and had to go to counciling (was almost fired) because in discussing a medical procedure with our HR person that handles our medical information I said I had to sign a document to receive a skin graft because it was made from foreskin. HR said I said they stuffed dead baby penises in my wound. And that it was sexual harassment?

I now have the attitude of F them all the sob bustards/bustardettes.

[sc_rufctr]

In 35+ years of work I've never had an issue.

What I have seen several times is HR departments distort something beyond belief!

I'm also convinced that they do things to justify their existence.
A HR department is an expensive thing & I've seen a lot of their services off shored recently.

Imagine calling an Indian help desk to make an inquiry about your pay! That's becoming the norm.

[craigster59]

Supposedly he sexually assaulted someone at the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi.