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Originally Posted by Iciclehead
(Post 9877666)
I agree with your point, it is highly unlikely that an lawmaker would want to or be able to pass a law that gives a tool to LE to hassle, however, to build on your point perhaps, there is an issue with LE doing selective enforcement so that they can indulge their particular upset or prejudice.
Example, son got pulled over repeatedly for 1 or 2 kmh over the limit for a period of time as he is Asian in appearance and was driving a hot hatchback. He apparently got up their nose because the first time he was pulled over he asked (correctly) "are you arresting me or am I free to go" after producing the needed documents.
He refused to allow them to search his vehicle without them stating their probable cause (there was none) and then he was a marked man for the cops working that area.
Now, it worked out Ok as he made it known that he would fight a 3 kmh over ticket and they knew it would be thrown out of court, but he still got pulled over 10+ times over the course of a few weeks. In rush hour no less.
I have a problem with LE doing this kind of thing, if any one of us were followed, there is undoubtedly no end of infractions that would fringe the law's edges and could be prosecuted.
LE are humans too...and some of them are pretty bad humans so they do not get an automatic bye for bad behaviour as they know they can make your life miserable if they want and some of them do just that.
Lawmakers deserve even more opprobrium in my books by writing laws to a level of detail either giving far too much leeway for LE interpretation or far too little.
Net result is the same, we need our LE to be colour blind just as Our Lady of Justice is and too many of them are not. Those need to be weeded out with all the passion of a fat kid on a box of Smarties as they bring justice and rule of law into disrepute.
Dennis
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I will tell an opposite story.
My son purchased a $500 E30 that was impounded by the police and sat for years, the PO was arrested on drug charges. The car was purchased by a Pelican and was going to be used for a 24 Hours of Lemons then everyone backed out. He sold it to my son.
My son was 15 at the time, we worked on that car for a year to make it road worthy. He drove it to school.
The police were doing "dog training" in the student parking lot, guess which car triggered the dog? My sons druggies impound car. He was pulled from class and asked to open the car up for a search. Se obliged because he has nothing to hide. He even showed the sops the cool hiding places in the car to look for drugs. (I should add his street cred in HS went through the ceiling because he was being yanked out of class by the police)
I received a phone call that same day from the school resource officer, her first told me I had the coolest son ever and told me what happened, he also said he helped them find cubby holes and places where drugs could be hidden. My son loves firearms so the conversation went to their carries and they were impressed with his knowledge.
He made friends that day, which would come in handy as he got into a fender bender in front of the school,
The resource officer remembered him and called me immediately and asked me to come down. We were able to negotiate paying for damage and not getting insurance involved, no police report, no ticket (My son was at fault) and no harm, everyone was happy.
He sold that E30 for a tidy profit and purchased another E30 from another Pelican that saved an 325is from the Junkyard, but still needed some TLC. That one was black on black....
Side story, my son is a real life Kimi Raikkonen, when he purchased the $500 E30 his emotional response was a slight smile My friend (RickV) was somewhat concerned he did not like that car. After we left he called another forum guy and expressed his concern, this guy knows my son well, he asked Rick, did he smile a little? Rick said yes, then the other guy said, that means he was excited.
He was dubbed the Iceman after that, homage to Kimi.
A Euro tag was purchased by his GF at the time that said Iceman on it and was placed on the front of the Black E30. Iceman can also mean Meth dealer.
He was pulled over so many times in that car and searched and every time he would laugh and tell them to have at it. Showing them the places they missed etc.. getting into a convo on guns. Making friends.
He has never played the search warrant game with them. He has never had an issue with it.
My best friend was a street cop and my son knows him well and my cousin is one as well.
Both have told me the same thing when I was arguing over my disdain for speed traps. You will be amazed how many bad people they pull off the streets via speed traps. They are dumb and speed when they have warrants out. So many times a routine stop turns into an arrest and a bad guy that may have stolen from you is off the street.
BTW my son is Wonder White Bread so no racial profiling here. Not once was he in fear of his life, he always listened to the nice police man.
