What good is legalizing weed if you can't use it?

[cantdrv55]

A friend of mine is happy that weed is finally legal in the CA. I asked her if she was planning to smoke again like we did in college. She said she'd get fired if her employer found out. So whats the point of legalizing if you're going to get penalized anyway?

[fintstone]

There is no point. Keep it illegal.

[legion]

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by peteremsley

Fint, it's for the creative students and slacker crowd. Not sure your tight underwear will ever let you fathom that...

And there's a bunch of great medical uses too, but we've already covered those.

It will make the few that actually want to work virtually unemployable in any serious profession. California is intent upon staying the nations runaway welfare state....but the rest of the left coast and Colorado will follow.

[enzo1]

Originally Posted by cantdrv55

A friend of mine is happy that weed is finally legal in the CA. I asked her if she was planning to smoke again like we did in college. She said she'd get fired if her employer found out. So whats the point of legalizing if you're going to get penalized anyway?

Lawsuit...probably

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by enzo1

Lawsuit...probably

Short lawsuit. It is still a federal crime to possess or use.

[Superman]

There are employers who care more about their employees' productivity than their recreational activities. There are perfectly productive workers who use cannabis. Washington State has a robust cannabis industry. It also has several of the world's most successful employers. Boeing, Amazon, Starbucks, yadda yadda.

[LWJ]

It is a very grey area as alluded to above. in Oregon, we have some employers who drug test, even though personal use is legal. Funny, I haven't noticed any changes in behavior but I have seen a big change in attitudes since it was legalized. For example, most of my peers don't use. People who did use are now out of the closet a bit. Weird.

[legion]

[pksystems]

The potheads that operate heavy machinery up here are whining that they shouldn't have to pass drug tests at work once pot is legalized. They don't seem to realize you can't be drunk at work either. Safety be damned, they voted for Trudeau to get their legal weed.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by cantdrv55

A friend of mine is happy that weed is finally legal in the CA. I asked her if she was planning to smoke again like we did in college. She said she'd get fired if her employer found out. So whats the point of legalizing if you're going to get penalized anyway?

Because there are some employers who pay you for results, not ticks on a checkoff sheet - so drinkers and smokers can both now legally hold jobs.
Employers can still make some decisions about the standards they hold for their employees. For example, tattoos are perfectly legal, but can be a consideration when hiring an individual. I don't see a problem with having a drug and alcohol standard. I have to admit I don't know why they separate them. Alcohol is a drug just like marijuana. Drinkers, smokers - same risk, should have the same restrictions.

[Esel Mann]

WD, not the same risk, there is a difference between ayinger hefeweizen, and blueberry diesel MJ.

[manbridge 74]

Will create a two tiered society of bottom feeding users and straights.

Operate any kind of machinery and have an accident, even if not at fault, and you get to join the loser class after positive DT. That’s how it is here. Gonna change a lot of people’s lives...

[Esel Mann]

Originally Posted by peteremsley

For a guy that supposedly recruits people, you don't seem to know much about people. You're a fascinating fella.

Give the guy a break, he's being double-pegged. He can't employ Cheech n Chong. But those that can meet criteria, he can't honor their demands.

gov entity = bureaucracy = fiefdom. Some things have never changed.

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by cantdrv55

A friend of mine is happy that weed is finally legal in the CA. I asked her if she was planning to smoke again like we did in college. She said she'd get fired if her employer found out. So whats the point of legalizing if you're going to get penalized anyway?

My SCI causes me periodic pain that can be crippling. It is legal for me to use OxyContin and a low dose of 5 mg would take the edge off enough for me to function. But it would be unwise for me to drive even on a low dose. And if I had tested positive at work as a Pharmaceutical Inspector no defense would have been possible to save my job. And I totally agree with that position.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Superman

There are employers who care more about their employees' productivity than their recreational activities. There are perfectly productive workers who use cannabis. Washington State has a robust cannabis industry. It also has several of the world's most successful employers. Boeing, Amazon, Starbucks, yadda yadda.

Every one of which will fire your ass yesterday if you test positive. And they will test, by law and by their insurance carrier's requirements, after any sort of work place accident or incident. Or even at random, depending on the level of federal regulation under which they suffer.

Sorry Supe, that's just the way it is. Any company with multi-state operations, or federal contracts, or over the road operations, or construction operations, etc. - anything that has any level of federal oversight or regulation, or any sort of liability insurance for injuries to their employees or customers - will not allow cannabis use of any kind. They fall back on federal law, and all manner of federal (OSHA, etc.) regulations.

[Aurel]

It does not matter for the typical liberal voters who are on welfare and do not hold real jobs that they could lose if their employer found out thet smoke weed.
And the more stunned they are, the more democrat they will vote...A win win .

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by fintstone

It will make the few that actually want to work virtually unemployable in any serious profession. California is intent upon staying the nations runaway welfare state....but the rest of the left coast and Colorado will follow.

Oregon and Washington legalized pot before California...so, it's all of the left coast now.

[RSBob]

Originally Posted by Aurel

It does not matter for the typical liberal voters who are on welfare and do not hold real jobs that they could lose if their employer found out thet smoke weed.
And the more stunned they are, the more democrat they will vote...A win win .

You sir are an excellent candidate for PARF said the typical liberal Washington voter who retired early from a Fortune top ten company. I must have screwed up somewhere. The broader the brush the narrower the perspective.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by Superman

There are employers who care more about their employees' productivity than their recreational activities. There are perfectly productive workers who use cannabis. Washington State has a robust cannabis industry. It also has several of the world's most successful employers. Boeing, Amazon, Starbucks, yadda yadda.

There are employers more concerned with reliability than productivity. Ask Boeing if they allow their empliyees to smoke pot...yadda yadda.