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Thanks Adobe

Went to install Creative Suite 5.5, a 5 year old piece of software, on my new Mac running High Sierra. CS5.5 is a download installer, not DVD. HS won't even recognize it as software, tells me to eject the disk image.

Did the same thing with newer Acrobat Pro as a download. But we had bought the physical Acrobate DVD, that installed and worked just fine.

Now I have to back to an old system on an old iMac just so I can use Photoshop and Illustrator.

Adobe doesn't even sell discreet versions of this software anymore, they are monthly subscriptions in perpetuity. **** you Adobe.

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Old 04-04-2018, 12:03 PM
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MS has gone the same way with Office (office 365).

And folks wonder why I like my Free Software, the GPL, and almost exclusively use Linux.
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Old 04-04-2018, 12:18 PM
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More and more commercial software will be subscription by the month or year in the near future, or now.

We just accept it as a cost of doing business. Photoshop CS has some weird quirks. At least they but back some of the easy old batch routines. For a few years I kept an old computer running and and OLD version of Photoshop on it because it was so easy to do back routines.

I hate how there are just lots of stupid file extensions I can't hide. I have not used a some formats EVER! No way to just hide them. Just wade through them and ignore them.
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Hell, I’m still using CS4. The only time I have a problem is when some stooge with the latest version can’t modify something.

If we stop eating their **** they’ll stop feeding us ****.
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Went to install Creative Suite 5.5, a 5 year old piece of software, on my new Mac running High Sierra. CS5.5 is a download installer, not DVD. HS won't even recognize it as software, tells me to eject the disk image.

Did the same thing with newer Acrobat Pro as a download. But we had bought the physical Acrobate DVD, that installed and worked just fine.

Now I have to back to an old system on an old iMac just so I can use Photoshop and Illustrator.

Adobe doesn't even sell discreet versions of this software anymore, they are monthly subscriptions in perpetuity. **** you Adobe.
Are you trying to download directly from Adobe? If so, make sure you are logged into your account first: CS5.5 Download Page

If that doesn't work, try here: Pro Design Tools Direct Download Links
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Thanks Eric, that's the page I downloaded from. I was logged into the account I'll try the Pro Design tonight.
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Autodesk is now doing this, ditto sketchup and Nemechek. Gddamn annoying nonsense just to keep software hawkers employed. The “features” added with each successive release are inconsequential and this model only encourages bloatware rather than real innovation.
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The worst part is we own some very expensive software that has to "phone home" via the internet every time it is launched, or starts a major process step. If the internet is down, it just stops or will not even start. That will elicit lots of profanity when we are under a deadline, which is almost always.
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Adobe definitely pushes my buttons. I keep older copies around to ensure that I don't need cloud.
This cloud thing is sooo annoying.
I got my wife a cricut machine. She has to use their cloud based app. (Which has really poor responsiveness). Now, explain to me why I need to connect to their cloud garbage when the machine is literally next to her laptop. The reason is they think they can get more revenue out of us. Well it won't work. I won't spend $1 on their anything.

The cloud not only is a pain, it kills performance. Some posted the difference between using a legitimate copy of Adobe, but the cracked version. It is LUDICROUS.


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Sorry, to add some clarity....
The first image is the performance hit.
The second image is all of the connections and paths that the software uses from the factory.
The third image is what the hackers did to bypass all of the above, and massively improve performance.

The reality is that CEOs think the word cloud is the future and this magical place....it really is just keeping your stuff in another persons computer that is away from you.
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I tried to resist the subscription model.

Ticked me off as well.

Unfortunately when you share files with people in other companies you are eventually forced to upgrade. In most cases if their file is the newest version you can't do anything with it.

Also the constant updates. **** works today, broken tomorrow, works again at the end of the week.

When I' have a machine in a stable state I generally don't bother with anything but the most critical updates.

I don't have time for stuff to get broken due to a fix.
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MS has gone the same way with Office (office 365).

And folks wonder why I like my Free Software, the GPL, and almost exclusively use Linux.
I'm still using Office 2000. lol
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I use CS6 on a Mac, it is the last version that is non subscription based.

I used to sell software and went through the dynamic of "converting" customers from on premise installs to cloud based installs even when I knew it was a major downgrade for the customers. We relied very heavily on Adobe for the layout and editing part of the system and cloud based Adobe did not exist back then.

Part of the reason I left the company is that I believed I was no longer serving my customers as they deserved. The private equity firm that bought us out only wanted a cash cow model, thus the cloud model. Sucks, I know.
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Are you trying to download directly from Adobe? If so, make sure you are logged into your account first: CS5.5 Download Page

If that doesn't work, try here: Pro Design Tools Direct Download Links
And here it is, the pop-up of death.



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Found how to run the unix installer in the terminal and it seems to have worked, it's installed, but I need to install the legacy Java SE runtime now.


IT WORKED! I have Photoshop, etc. again! what a day. Thank you Eric for your help with that special page link!
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Hmm, I found this the other day and almost threw it out. Maybe I'd better hang onto it just in case....

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Wife has a similar problem with the suite, needs to upgrade her old Mac now and it won’t take HS. Funny that a subscription software is forcing a hardware upgrade. Definitely ass backwards
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The worst part is we own some very expensive software that has to "phone home" via the internet every time it is launched, or starts a major process step.
Adobe used to do that to me. Then they stopped. I only periodically have to phone home now. I don't know why.

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