Lug Nuts Overtightened and NOW STUCK

[safe]

Originally Posted by pmax

Kinda understandable why shops overtighten everything. Better to have the nuts stay put than the wheels fall off, car gets damaged and someone gets injured.

Happens with tires, drain plugs etc etc

The problem isnt overtightening its lack of lubrication. That is just lazy...

[DanielDudley]

Originally Posted by safe

The problem isnt overtightening its lack of lubrication. That is just lazy...

Don't put antisieze on the seat. it can split the rim and cause it to crack to the center. If you use any antisieze, only use it on the threads, and only use a very tiny amount one time.

Get steel lug nuts if you want a solution that is fail safe. Hand tighten only, and use a torque wrench.

[safe]

Originally Posted by DanielDudley

Don't put antisieze on the seat. it can split the rim and cause it to crack to the center. If you use any antisieze, only use it on the threads, and only use a very tiny amount one time.

Get steel lug nuts if you want a solution that is fail safe. Hand tighten only, and use a torque wrench.

Bull.
Its in the porsche manual to lub both thread and seat.

[RWebb]

Correct - do what the engineers at Porsche tell you to do - threads AND the convex seat of the lug nut

"A little dab 'll do ya"

[pmax]

Bulletin also says always use a perfect (literally) P300 tool everytime, nothing else.

Everyone here has one ?

[Chrismarine1966]

Originally Posted by famoroso

Ugh. Nightmare! Looks like there is (was?) a factory hole saw tool for this application...

thanks for posting this one, great info this technical letter.

[AirJose]

John Walker said it! use a sharp pointed round chisel, about 5-6 inches long. Hit it straight initially, then in the same hole that you made (indentation) hit it carefully to rotate that part to the left (to loose it) be careful to avoid damaging each wheel; Use a good penetrating oil before chiseling it! An old mechanic saying..."Nothing was born there, someone put it there"

Best of luck,

Jose

[NYNick]

There's only 3 local P-shops in our/your area. I find it hard to believe the one in Elmsford or Bedford Hills did that to your car and had the balls to charge you for taking them off.

[High Hope]

My second car, a rusty '69 2002, had steel lug nuts that refused to come off. My dad suggested I take it to the local service station and see if they'd put some heat there. Voila, came off like butter. I don't know how this will work with alloys, aluminum, and steel.

[Jgordon]

Originally Posted by Blue83Cab

Hi all- back to the shop and just had them fix it. $657 to remove 3 wheels, retap the treads, test drive and a quart of brad penn. Didn't love the price but got my car back up and running so it was worth it. Next time i will be putting my lugs nuts on myself...

thanks for all the advice.

Hang on - they charged you to undo their mess? How long ago did they put the wheels on?

[mepstein]

Originally Posted by High Hope

My second car, a rusty '69 2002, had steel lug nuts that refused to come off. My dad suggested I take it to the local service station and see if they'd put some heat there. Voila, came off like butter. I don't know how this will work with alloys, aluminum, and steel.

Yep. Working at an air cooled Porsche shop, I learned Heat is your friend for unsticking many things. The techs don’t have days to wait on penetrating oil. MAP gas takes a couple minutes.

[Ryce Stallings]

I removed one with a hole saw, the metal is soft and it was easy to cut.

[gomezoneill]

Originally Posted by AirJose

John Walker said it! use a sharp pointed round chisel, about 5-6 inches long. Hit it straight initially, then in the same hole that you made (indentation) hit it carefully to rotate that part to the left (to loose it) be careful to avoid damaging each wheel; Use a good penetrating oil before chiseling it! An old mechanic saying..."Nothing was born there, someone put it there"

Best of luck,

Jose

Do you mean a round punch? What's a round chisel?

[safe]

Originally Posted by gomezoneill

Do you mean a round punch? What's a round chisel?

A center punch, like you use for making an indentation before drilling.

[gomezoneill]

Originally Posted by safe

A center punch, like you use for making an indentation before drilling.

A center punch is not a chisel. That was my point.