Reminder how unsafe the open road can be!

[GG Allin]

Hope he is for the most part okay.

[WP0ZZZ]

I hope the driver makes a full recovery as soon as possible.

For the rest of us driving fast 911s on the road, it would be interesting to understand if something failed in the accident. I find it worrying that the unfortunate driver sustained serious head injuries. Especially when considering the relatively small deformations of the cockpit.

[Otter74]

This is also a reminder that, setting aside things like driving within the limits of conditions and your ability, etc. our cars are not particularly safe in a crash. This is a body shell that was designed in the early 60s, after all. It's likely that if this collision had taken place with the victim in a modern car, he would have walked away and gone home.

[PCA7GGR]

Again from Facebook:

"... one of his major injuries from the crash was his left leg. He broke his fibula and tibia. Once he was stable yesterday morning, they did the external fixation, with rods and pins outside his legs. He will need to have a second surgery to put permanent parts in. Doctors said he will most likely be in the ICU for the next day or two."

[GothingNC]

Originally Posted by gomezoneill

Wheels are different. Mirrors are the same though.

Could have changed the wheels after the photo.
Brake calipers are the same color and the decals are the same too.

Prayers he has a full recovery.

[LIRS6]

Originally Posted by GothingNC

Prayers he has a full recovery.

Indeed

[winders]

@ClickClickBoom lives in Boulder Creek (same area as the accident location). I wonder if he has heard anything about this.

[3.6 911]

[QUOTE=GothingNC;11131979]Could have changed the wheels after the photo.
Brake calipers are the same color and the decals are the same too.

As well as all the stickers on the side windows

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by WP0ZZZ

I hope the driver makes a full recovery as soon as possible.

For the rest of us driving fast 911s on the road, it would be interesting to understand if something failed in the accident. I find it worrying that the unfortunate driver sustained serious head injuries. Especially when considering the relatively small deformations of the cockpit.

yes

I have to assume he was not wearing a shoulder belt or no seatbelt at all.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by PCA7GGR

Here's the latest from his family (posted on Facebook)

"On Saturday, December 5th 2020, my dad started his Saturday the best way he knew how. He went out with his buddies to take a drive in their Porches. With only a couple minutes out from his final destination, my dad hit a slick spot on the road and went head on into oncoming traffic. His car was completely totaled and he was left with serious injuries. He was then airlifted to Stanford Hospital and his condition continues to change everyday."

RGrupper, super nice guy and needs your prayers.

Are these group drives usually done at a leisurely pace or is there pressure to keep up with the buddies and not fall behind ?

Given the differences between drivers and cars, the latter's not going to work.

[RFP]

Originally Posted by gomezoneill

Wheels are different. Mirrors are the same though.

Yellow calipers, too

[pmax]

Originally Posted by kach22i

Lower profile summer tires below 50 degrees are rubbish.

Good points, kach.

Even in NorCal, we do reach freezing temps overnight.

[shadowjack1]

Nice looking car. Hope the driver makes out ok.

[stownsen914]

I looked and '74 and up 911s had shoulder belts. This car appears to be a long hood, so I hope this gentleman had them.

+1 on summer tires sucking in cold weather. I bought a used daily driver (non-Porsche) a few years ago that must have come from out of region because unbeknownst to me, it had summer tires. (Also had warm weather windshield washer fluid, boy was that annoying). I got to know how poorly they are in cold weather the first time it snowed ...

[1979-930]

I had some Hankook Extreem Sumer tires on a car once. It was like driving on ice below 45 degrees for the first mile or so. They would warm up and be ok.
I had to take them off. Track only tires IMO.

It seems the driver will survive from the Facebook updates.Good news.

The car is toast. Looks like it bounced off the bridge first then into oncoming traffic.


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[76FJ55]

This is a 74 or later car. You can see the larger impact bumpers in the rear as well as the front,though its pushed down below the bumper of the truck. The bumper end bellows are clearly visible at the lower edge of the front fender.

I am assuming the driver was belted in, and with factory belts, that would be 3 point with shoulder harness.

The missing windshield does not imply ejection to me. These windshields are just held in place with a rubber gasket, so could easily pop out in a front end impact, especially one of this severity, where the windshield frame has twisted like this one. Modern cars have the windshield bonded in to support the deployment of the airbags, so you dont see them loose the windshield in a crash.

[blucille]

We’ve had a mild fall in the metro NY region but this thread convinced me to put my cold weather tires onto the Cayman R today.

[ab1752]

As someone who has had external fixation to repair a shattered radius, its not run at all, fib / tib would really suck. Hes lucky to be alive though, both vehicles must have been heavy on the brakes to keep that 1500 off the roof of the 911.

Hope he heals up OK, cars can be built and rebuilt but people, far less so.

[wildthing]

[pmax]

Originally Posted by eastbay

photo raises a lot of questions

Wheels turned to the left. Counter steering ?