Missing clips... anybody have a part #?

[tschall]

Hey guys, on a 3.2 1986 911, I have discovered a pair of missing retention clips. They attach the male and female plastic ferrules together on the CHT tower (3 plug) on the drivers side front left of engine. The CHT has a two wire clip in place. The Speed and Reference sensor clips are missing, and the Speed sensor will not stay clipped together. Our host doesn't have a clue, nothing showing in PET for correct model year. See pix courtesy of Tom.Stiller's excellent post on replacing both sensors, which clearly show the clips. These are 3 wire (width) clips similar to the Fuel Injector electrical clips on the injectors. They live on the female side of the plug (engine/inboard). Anybody have a place to look or know the answer.
Thanks!

[HaroldMHedge]

Try looking at the 86 PET Illustration 107-110, L-JETRONIC III, Position 10, 911-606-127-00, Support. My PET shows this as one clip holding all 3 connectors into place.

[tschall]

HMHedge, thanks for the reply, but that is the Tower retention metal clip, that indeed does hold all three connectors in their vertical arrangement. See pix for more detail, it is the tiny wire clips that lock each connector pair together. It is clearly visible in Tom.Stiller's photo.
Thanks for the suggestion! I know someone has/knows what these are specifically by part #!!

[tschall]

See pix, annotated... please!

[famoroso]

They do live on the female side of the connectors, but, FWIW, these are on the outboard / body harness side.

They are JPT or Junior Power Timer connectors.

I don't believe the clips are available separately. You may need to acquire the connector to source the clip...

https://www.alliedelec.com/product/te-connectivity/282191-1/70285505/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=&scid=scplp70285505&sc_intid=70285505&gclid=Cj0KCQjw--GFBhDeARIsACH_kdYyyzagycQXlbdZjMtb9Y4-4_8OQF2jw-La5xcMcgnx2wl7XkO0hhYaAkdAEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Alternatively, you can ping Dennis (Timmy2 here on Pelican) to see if he has any lying around.

[timmy2]

I don’t have any of the old style metal spring retainers left. Replacing the entire connector body with a new one is the only option.
Try Mouser or Digikey under Timer Junior or JPT connectors.
They will likely be the new style with a push spring for release.
Or get the ones posted above, (just looked) be sure to buy new terminals for them as well, as they rarely survive removal from the old housings.

[tschall]

Frank & Dennis, thanks so much. This is a NEW rebuild from a recognized shop and guess what, NO CLIPS. They did not replace the Speed & Reference sensors to housing and now I've got a failure. Sheesh! 5 minute job when engine and trans out, now its a crawly feely job and maybe lots of time... You guys are the best. I was told, these clips may be the same as the Fuel injector clips for a 3 wire connector? Any feedback??

[tschall]

Guys please provide pat numbers for inboard female connectors that aslso should have been replaced at rebuild. I will buy a pair. Are they difficult to install when car on ground??
Thanks to the PP experts, and Frank M491 owners club!!

[kevingross]

The spring wire clip for Bosch Jetronic/Motronic two-pin connectors is 022.971.999.

[timmy2]

Or just do what many have done in the past.
Tie wrap the connectors together and drive it until you find all the replacement connectors.
I don’t have the part numbers for the male connectors, you likely don’t need to replace them unless the tower retaining clip to the frame has failed.

[tschall]

Guys thanks. Kevin it is the 3 pin connector, not the 2 pin on CHT, but hey thanks for the heads up! Dennis the female pin housing is 35 years young and decomposing in place. Retention bar (3 slot) will not hold the Speed and Reference sensor in place they float and move inboard - outboard about one inch. Frank sent a link to Allied Elec for a 3 pin female connector, but the issue is FIT. Will it it or won't it fit. Website diagram is different than new sensor male end in appearance... If it does fit then issue is trying to wire existing to new. No room, less than an inch from manifold fully extended. Tight to release internal pins in old female connector. Problem thy name is Porsche... Thanks to all!! till looking. Sal you out there my friend??