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How Much Misery ? 1988 Carrera Targa

I recently replaced the speed impulse sender for the speedometer. That went okay. While I was under the car, I noticed that the left side inner CV joint was split. It looked very recent, due to the absence of grease outside the boot. Replacement seemed straight forward. Working on the inside joint, I managed to remove all of the allen head bolts except for one. I tried to be careful, cleaning the bolt heads. The bolt did not want to give up. Now I'm facing a stripped head.
How screwed am I ? Car is on jack stands in garage. Hopefully there is some type of tool or socket to grab the bolt. I've managed most stuff with my one arm, left arm gone from mid-forearm. Don't want pity, just describing what I'm working with.
Any advice would be appreciated.

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Heat my be your friend here.
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Can you lock a vice grip wrench on it?
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Thanks for the input. I also found another post with similar issue. I have soaked bolts and will try the advised methods. This bolt certainly seems to be more than 60 ftlbs. The others were no problem. It's always one right...
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You may be able to pound a torx bit in the stripped allen. Heat, penetrant, heat, torx, once you completely strip, vice grips, then as a final solution cut it off with abrasive wheel!
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if that happened to me i`d use hammer and very good quality chisel...2 hits and it will get loose.Just make sure you have it flat on the head(on side) of the bolt ,not in an angle.....

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correction, sorry for that did not notice that one arm...Thanx John W. my bad...

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Hard to so that with one arm. Sometimes you can find a 12 point socket that is the perfect interfence fit that can be hammered on tight. There are also internal spiral easy out sockets that can be hammered on. I'd try a visegrip first.
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If you grind the defective head off the CV. Will clear the stud and the stud will be finger tight for removal.
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Put the bolts opposite the stuck one back in and tighten. This should help if you can get something on it to loosen. Whenever your loosening something in the round do it evenly, if you take all bolts out the last one has a tendency to hang up due to unequal pressure. A manual ( hammer type) impact driver is a lifesaver.
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When that happened to me, an air hammer with a chisel tip did the job. You put it tangential to the bolt so that it rotates it as the hammer taps it. Of course the angle is not purely tangential as you need it to have some force towards the bolt head.
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I had same problem few years ago. I didn't have torch so that wasn't an option. I took a dremel and carefully ground down two side of the allen head so I could get a really good grip with vice grips. I also think the dremeling process it's self MAY have helped but that's only a guess. Maybe do what I did AND use heat? good luck
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Any Pelicanheads in South Delaware who can PM the poster and lend some help?
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if you reinstall other bolts and drive it up to Philly (near Villanova) we can do it on my lift. No worries. Frank
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There are also internal spiral easy out sockets that can be hammered on. I'd try a visegrip first.
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Here is my solution.

1. Weld a allen bit on the bolt. It then broke off because of metal fatigue
2. Got out the cutting disc on a die grinder, cut that head off and the CV shaft comes off. The left over bolt is exposed for all to see.
3. Use a visegrip to get a good grip, and a MAAP torch to heat up the end of the bolt, and it comes off.

Nothing on the car is going to win against heat, more heat, cutting wheel, die grinder, and a big ass wrench.
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If vice grips fail... I'd cut slots in the Allen with a Dremel to make it suitable for a flat head screw driver. Then use a stubby flathead screwdriver that has a square shaft. Use an adjustable wrench on the shaft to get leverage.

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