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Help! Need to make a 'master' key

Hi Guys,

I recently purchased a 1976 911 S Targa, which only came with a 'valet' key and not a 'Master' key. As expected, the valet key only unlocks the doors and operates the ignition switch.

Also as expected, the valet key does not operate the glove box lock or the front trunk release handle (which has a built in lock, like the cabrios).

From my limited research I believe a master key can be made from the valet key, but I am not sure how that is done, or if it requires special expertise. I was able to remove the glove box lock (as it was open) but I am not sure if that is helpful to the process.

Any information on how to obtain a master key to access my front trunk would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help.

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Help! Need to make a 'master' key

You can go to the dealership, with your title, and of course your VIN and get a new master key made. Then make we duplicates.
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Really? Even for a 1976 vehicle?
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I believe you can just get a black key blank and have it cut from your red (valet) key.
Stupid Red Key Question
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Thanks, Harry. For some reason I did not think it was that easy.
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i just did this take your car title and DL to dealership. prepare to wait three month....
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You can make a master key from the valet key. The difference is in the key blank itself not the way the blank is cut by the locksmith.
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Here are some older Pelican (and other forum) Threads which may be helpful. . .

Warren (Early_S_Man) addresses the key difference in post #4 on the first thread listed.

Need pic of Valet and Main key

Master key from valet key?

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https://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?97351-Valet-key
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1) order one or two black ignition key blanks from our host;
2) go to any competent locksmith and have the keys cut to your valet key;
3) take your new key(s), along with your glovebox tumbler, and any others (like doors or frunk) you want re-keyed, to any competent Porsche fix-it store and have the tumblers re-keyed to your new ignition key. You should end up with one key that operates everything, unless you don't want a lot-boy car jacker to have access to your glovebox. Personally, I think the car is far more valuable than anything in the glovebox, but...
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I find the best way to do this is to remove the passenger door handle and take it to a competent old school locksmith. He will remove the lock cylinder from the door handle. Then he will remove and examine the wafers. Each wafer will be a different size and have a number on it. He will then notate the number and the order in the cylinder. That will be the factory key code. He will reassemble and cut from the key code a new key which will work in all locations as well as your original valet keys. Ask him to stamp the key code on the new key so you can put the key in a safe location. Once you have the key code you can have as many keys cut as you wish using the key code. No need to bring in the key when you want to replace a lost or one that is worn out.


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i just did this take your car title and DL to dealership. prepare to wait three month....
I ordered one from my dealership recently. It came in within two weeks. A genuine Porsche key, not the aftermarket ones. It was not cheap!

I wanted one because the black key has been in my pocket or in the ignition for the last 27 years. It is worn enough I have to wiggle it just a little to unlock some of the locks. The new key works 100% with a more precise feel.

I took it to a local locksmith, and hand some spares cut. The new original key is now in my safe, and receiving no more wear.
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NOTE: Some blanks have a different thickness than the factory key. Check w/ calipers, not sure it makes a huge difference.. but it makes a difference.
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You can make a master key from the valet key. The difference is in the key blank itself not the way the blank is cut by the locksmith.
I made a red valet key for my SC using the black key this way. The valet function is in the blank itself (side grooves i think). I provided the Porsche red key blank and my shop cut it for free using the black key. Works perfectly.

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