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3.2 to varioram conversion
This topic has been kicked around, but from my searches here I can't seem to get clear whether this swap is readily doable or makes good sense.
Would this be a sensible upgrade for my '87? Just kicking tires here... |
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I think you'd run into a couple of different problems with this swap.
1. The vario-ram intakes are designed for a larger engine with different power characteristics, so it may not actually help a motor that has very different needs 2. The DME for the 3.2 isn't setup for vario-ram and the dme for later cars isn't set up for the rest of the 3.2 On another train of thought, The 3.2 intake, I believe, is a common upgrade for 930's, if it is capable of working well for a higher horse motor, then it should be good for a 3.2. Steve Weiner @ Rennsport Systems has posted either here or on the Rennlist about 3.2 intakes not having even flow between the runners and benefitting from extrude-honing the intake to even out the flow (or something to that extent).
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I'm pretty sure Randy W has a 3.2 with Varioram in his number 51 car. You might want to send him an email or maybe he'll chime in shortly.
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From the link it appears you are interested in upgrading to a 3.6 Varioram motor. Your subject is a little misleading.
It would make a great upgrade. With your car's G50 tranmission you won't have the transmission issues that earlier cars sometimes have. -Chris
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ah, yes, without looking at the link I thought you wanted to put a vario-ram intake on a 3.2, my mistake. Yes a couple of people on the board have recently upgraded to a vario-ram 3.6, and yes, you have a great transmission for that swap as opposed to the people with the earlier 915 transmissions.
I thought Randy Wells was using a late model MAF, but the stock 3.2L intakes?
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I'm thinking of putting a 964 dual plenum intake on my 3.2 (3.4 twin plug). I have an idea on how to run the plenum flapper using the DME...
-Chris
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Yeah - the thinking was to swap the engine to a 3.6 varioram rather than upgrade the 3.2 to varioram - sorry to mislead.
I'll try to search down some of the "converted" on this board a bit further. The 3.6 on eBay has cycled a few times unsold, I believe, or there have been other similar 3.6's moving through eBay. Is the asking price on this 3.6 typical or a little on the steep side? Are there better alternatives on a cost/HP reward basis? |
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That ebay motor includes the transmission so that may have something to do with the price. The last motor I heard a price on was $7000 for a Euro 3.6 varioram.
-Chris
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Drago is correct about Randy's car. He does have the Varioram on the 3.2.
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It's very doable, here is what it might look like installed in an earlier chassis,
![]() A US version will be harder to do and have more electronic issues to deal with.
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