Need help with color code

[Daver22]

I recently acquired a 1980 911SC. The COA states it is paint to sample. The color code tag is below. I can’t find a true match. Seems Helios Blue is closest match but someone said Pacific Blue. Searches aren’t turning up a true match.

Anyone got ideas to confirm?





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[harv666]

That color is a light. Blue audi color. Your car is repainted over the original pts color.

[harv666]

Read this thread. https://forums.pelicanparts.com/paint-bodywork-detailing-forum/747806-color-code-358-9-3-a-2.html

[Daver22]

Thanks for input. My local shop says it’s original paint. Search continues.


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[3rd_gear_Ted]

Oslo Blue is the closest Porsche color my eye sees

[EC900]

The true way to determine color code is thru a PPS…previous called a COA.
You have the PPS/COA which should indicate a ‘099’ or ‘99’ Paint To Sample AND should have the color listed (Blue, Veneziablau, Irisblau, etc)… but not the code number.

As you know the Kunstharzlack tag indicates the actual color (code) but it may not necessarily be from the Porsche color palette. Could be any maker color formulated and sprayed by Porsche factory. It could be a 928, 914, 912 or a 356 standard color for that matter too, whatever # for a model year prior to 1980.

If your COA/PPS does not have a color name listed, call Porsche direct and they’ll gladly correct the omission and at very least tell you the color code and if applicable, the actual color name. This will give you an idea of what that number is actually stamped on the illegible Kunstharzlark tag unless maybe they can decipher it. (They’re very helpful actually called me back a couple times to rectify my PPS.)

Yes, it looks like 31 P-9-3. If so it may be Helios Blue Metallic
The P = Perlcolor/Pearlescent…whereas a -1 or -2 suffix is single stage color and two stage process for metallics.
There are blue pearlescent like the 31G Pazificblau, 33P and 36P that are close too.

In the meantime, I would also check closely at various locations on the car to make sure it wasn’t re-sprayed lighter/darker just in case.

Good luck please report back with any info you get from Porsche !
Nice color, needs a proper name.

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en_US/2022/technology/porsche-vehicle-documentation-online-service-30039.html

[ChrisHamilton]

On the warranty card is the PTS listed as 9999 or 9998?

[ChrisHamilton]

One thing I learned during my recent excursion down the PTS rabbit hole is that nothing is really clear short of getting the PPS.
If the PTS code is 9999 it means a color never used by Porsche in production up to that point. 9998 indicates a color Porsche used in production. The code on the tag is going to be the color. The trick is finding it in a system.

In 1980 Helios Blue was an available color and the code was LA5Y same as the VW code. 31P wasn't available in the Porsche line until 1985. It is not the same color looking at the mixing formulas for the two. That doesn't mean that 31p wasn't available though. It just wasn't used in production till 1985.

If the paint is in good to excellent condition then the easiest method is to go to your local paint jobber that sells BASF (Glasurit) or other manufacturers. They can scan the paint with a color camera and that will get you very close. Usually within two shades.

[ChrisHamilton]

Just looking at the Glasurit database one more time, if that is 31p then it very likely helios blue. While it may have some pearlescent in it it's not a 3 stage pearl. Just a regular metallic basecoat.

Like I said above the way a Shop would match the color would be to use a color spectrophotometer (color camera) and match the color that way. You would generally take 3 readings to ensure that you are getting consistent readings. That would get you what we call a blendable match. Meaning something that is within one or two shades. When blended correctly your eye cannot pickup the difference. If you panel painted you would be able to see the difference. That is the most you can expect because it's nearly impossible to panel paint a metallic and have it match exactly.
A paint jobber that carries Glasurit (BASF) would be the preferred choice as Glasurit was used originally and they will have the most accurate formulas.

[Daver22]

Thanks for all the great info. I will reach out to Porsche and see what I can find out. Along with a new COA


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[Schulisco]

https://www.porsche.com/usa/accessoriesandservices/classic/genuinepartsandhistoricaldocuments/historicaldocuments/colourcharts911g/

[Daver22]

Thank you for that link! I found 31G in 1982 Pacific Blue which is what dealer (prior to my purchase) had called the color. Said it was a 1 of 1 for an SC in 1980

https://www.schmitt.com/inventory/original-1980-porsche-911-sc-sunroof-coupe-paint-to-sample/


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[ChrisHamilton]

So it was 31G on the tag not 31P? If so then that definitely fits the timeliness and looks like it's your color.