Why would you remove the Bumperettes?

[Billthebuilder]

Me puts the lotion on my bumperetts

[Balisong]

Carbone. They were silly money for what they are (light plastic without the rubberized coating). Sadly US cars will still have holes to plug. But I hate the originals so….

[Nick Triesch]

Yup , you can remove them to save on weight but a new Subaru wagon with 3 kids and a golden retriever will still blow your air cooled 911 away!! I leave mine on my Carrera.

[hierogk]

What's wrong with fat bottomed girls?

[SpyderMike]

Ummm, they have fat bottoms? Just guessing...

[Ian Comerford]

Oh dear, what have I started…….

[ccallana]

Originally Posted by hierogk

What's wrong with fat bottomed girls?

Nothing, they make the world go 'round. (well, at least the rockin world)

Did Freddy ever own a 911? hmmm

[917_Langheck]

Originally Posted by Nick Triesch

Yup , you can remove them to save on weight but a new Subaru wagon with 3 kids and a golden retriever will still blow your air cooled 911 away!! I leave mine on my Carrera.

Interesting idea, but the numbers would suggest otherwise. The lightest 2025 outback with the highest output engine (260 HP) is 14 lb/HP. An 87 Carrera would be 13.2 lb/HP. Load up the subbie and I think you're going to be at a disadvantage, unless road conditions call for full-time AWD. Watching the dog trying to find traction while whipping through the chicanes will be fun....

[porschedude996]

And there is a whole coolness order of magnitude difference. Subby 2, 911SC 10.

[famoroso]

"Heavy is good, heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work you can always hit them with it." - Boris The Blade
🤔

Why? Because they're there. Bumperette is a misnomer (at least on the US cars). At 7.28 pounds per, there's nothing "ette" about them...




IMO they can look "balanced" on a 911 with a tail, especially a Tea Tray.

I'm leaving the bumperettes on my (mostly) stock early '87. Although, from this angle, try not to think "full diaper..."




I am a bumperette delete guy on my Sports Purpose builds. I like the visual weight reduction and love the actual weight reduction.

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg

15.5# hanging off the back equates to 373.6 lb-ft of torque to change direction

Link to that calculation? I'd love to play with that.

Deleting the bumperettes and switching to Euro crush tubes (from US bumper shocks) saved me 17.66 pounds.

As an aside, the stock M491 tail & base weigh 25.66 pounds (14.76 lb base + 10.90 lb rubber lip), not including mounting hardware. How much torque for THAT to change direction?

Originally Posted by Balisong

Carbone. They were silly money for what they are (light plastic without the rubberized coating). Sadly US cars will still have holes to plug. But I hate the originals so….

No, they are not cheap, however, given what I spend on wheels and mufflers, I'm not making any value judgements. They look pretty good on there. I do applaud anyone developing new products for 35 to 50 year old cars that I happen to love tho. That being said, I'm not wild about the Car Bone logo being integrated.

Originally Posted by Nick Triesch

Yup , you can remove them to save on weight but a new Subaru wagon with 3 kids and a golden retriever will still blow your air cooled 911 away!! I leave mine on my Carrera.

#HPtoWeightMatters My late '87 is 2,678 lbs and 260hp. Such a different (i.e. Sports Purpose) driving experience.

Originally Posted by 917_Langheck

Interesting idea, but the numbers would suggest otherwise. The lightest 2025 outback with the highest output engine (260 HP) is 14 lb/HP. An 87 Carrera would be 13.2 lb/HP. Load up the subbie and I think you're going to be at a disadvantage, unless road conditions call for full-time AWD. Watching the dog trying to find traction while whipping through the chicanes will be fun....

...Until the dog pukes. BTDT with our 100 pound Rhodesian Ridgeback, in the back of our T5-R wagon, on the way to Estes Park from Lyons. Cannot recommend.

[Chrisyoung808]

I removed them so I can fit my exhaust. 997.2S center muffler

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by cky3396

just for the record I want to say I like the look of the US bumperettes, I like the look of the euro bumperettes, and I like the look of the folks who have removed them altogether for a shaved look.

I think everyones porsche looks awesome

That's the nicest post on this thread.

Originally Posted by porsche930dude

Yep some dopehead passed out and crashed into the back of my car and it was fine. His tow hook directly hit the bumperette. No problem. I dont mind the look of them maybe because its a black car and they blend in better. Good for sitting on when you need to also. I think they look weird without them or even with the euro ones but im probably just use to looking them big ones And with the whale tail they just go together it looks right

I understand the comments about the weight and aesthetics, but maybe I never really noticed the ugliness of the bumperettes on my own car because of the turbo hips. I keep 'em mainly because this rear-engined car gets driven in LA traffic.

[Gbodyfan4life]

They don’t look as bad on black cars IMO. They don’t stand out quite as much to me.

[Kraftwerk]

Live in NYC..or else I would've removed them long ago...

[75 911s]

165hp now feels like 180. 2,223lbs :-)

To be fair there are a lot of other weight saving options done too, but the bumperettes are low hanging fruit (and the euro impact shocks!)

[Racerbvd]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Yes, those US ones are big enough for two beers each side (or 20mm sockets instead of 10mm), whereas a Euro bumperettes are much lighter. I like them - good as a parking aid.

[avenbugt]

"Why would you remove the Bumperettes?"

Because you're driving a Porsche and you are not at a fairground...

[Nick Triesch]

The only people who ever said anything negative about my bumperetts was no one.

[wazzz]

Originally Posted by Racerbvd

Cute

[nickelplated5s]

Originally Posted by Nick Triesch

Yup , you can remove them to save on weight but a new Subaru wagon with 3 kids and a golden retriever will still blow your air cooled 911 away!! I leave mine on my Carrera.

Maybe if it's a WRX. Otherwise no. Have both