3.2 performance chip

[Shaun @ Tru6]

We are having a dyno day on the east coast on 10/4.

I will be able to post after only.

My 84 3.2 is 100% stock, never opened, has a 93 octane chip and 220K miles on it.

[targa911man]

Shaun--

Couldn't you switch in the stock chip for a 2nd run?

[Shaun @ Tru6]

I think that one of the rules is no changing set up during the 3 runs.

There may be a possibility of swapping brains quickly, but my spare is chipped with an unknown performance chip.

if some could bring a spare stock DME, that would be great.

[SLR]

Well I vote SteveW, I’v not long put the chip in my 85 euro 3.2 with sports exhaust 2 out 84mm and K&N filter, I let Steve know what I wanted and the gas I use, two weeks later the chip arrived in the post with full detailed instructions on fitting. It took me about 1/2 an hour all up and started strait away in to a perfect idle. took the car for a short spin and right away could fell the increase in torque and smoooth running. ( the car ran very well before any way) at about 2500 rpm it just pulls away very even and quick. not unlike the 3.6 motors, in fact some Porsche guys say it sounds like a 3.6. The car fells lighter and more nimble, I just like giving it gas and enjoying new ride.
Paul Im in the UK so SW’s chip work on our cars just e-mail the guy an get one.

[BGCarrera32]

Where are those before and after dyno tests that were promised last month?
What about the gas analyzer tests to show; the improved efficiency, better
running engine, and thus better overall driveability/performance?

All I read about is how good the chip "feels". Let's get some real data
so Porsche owners know what there're really getting. Any company
selling performance chips should be providing this data/info.

Note: The data provided at 911chips.com is not "clean" (before & after)
dyno runs, since the test vehicles had various mods.

Loren, I agree that you have some good points. But I find the nature of some of your posts to be a tad abrasive towards Steve and without any constructive suggestions. If you're trying to drum up business for your Motronic repair service, you're not helping yourself any. I agree it would be nice to see more tangible data, but Steve has made access to a lot of the information that he is able to provide much easier than Weltmeister and a few of the other chip manufacturers. Little excel graphs in magazine ads don't cut it for me either. Steve has made numerous references to improving performance yet mapping his curve so that potential engine damage is minimized/unlikely. He also has clearly stated his objectives are:

1. Reliability
2. Maximum performance, response, and power
3. Good fuel efficiency at cruise and light loads

Anyone rating reliablity concerns #1 on his list has my vote, as like yourself I don't want problems once its installed. Most of us are willing to trade some fuel efficiency for increased Hp and torque in our hobby vehicle.

When 20+ guys install his chip and claim it has improved everything from idle to removing throttle blips in the 3k range, there is probably something to it. By nature if a guy spends $2000 on exhaust work and claims how much power he gains, he'll say it so he doesn't look like an idiot after spending all that money if it didn't make any noticeable difference. If a guy spent $200 something on Steve's chip, and it wasn't all that it was cracked up to be, he'd probably say, "eh, not really worth it." But the users of his chip have said quite the contrary...

If I hadn't some other issues with my Carrera to address first, I'd have ordered one already. At the end of the day, if the chip put a smile on your face and did no appreciable damage to the vehicle, then WHO CARES...

-BG

[Jeff Alton]

Well said BG

[NoLift911]

Originally posted by Lorenfb
Where are those before and after dyno tests that were promised last month?
What about the gas analyzer tests to show; the improved efficiency, better
running engine, and thus better overall driveability/performance?

All I read about is how good the chip "feels". Let's get some real data
so Porsche owners know what there're really getting. Any company
selling performance chips should be providing this data/info.

Note: The data provided at 911chips.com is not "clean" (before & after)
dyno runs, since the test vehicles had various mods.

Loren
'88 3.2

Steve's website is very informative. If you took the time to read about how motronic actually works maybe you would have a better understanding of WHY he gets the gains he does.

Dyno runs aside (which he has some very good info posted on that as well, which look clean to me)

Why so down on seat of the pants feel? If it feels faster isn't that better? Would you rather have great dyno numbers with no perception in increased feel and performance?

What are we really getting for $230 anyway???? You have to be kidding me????

Dude, wake up. For the cost of 3-4 oil changes and a few tanks of gas you could have your Carrera running like never before...but don't take 30-40 individuals that know their car inside and out word for it.

Hang out and wait for JFK's killer to turn himself in....meanwhile we will all be idling smooth, enjoying our nice smooth torque curves and general kick in the ass performance that we get from Steve's chip.

If it cost twice that I would gladly pay and have the same glowing comments for a no BS, true HP gain.


-Jeff
nolift911@hotmail.com

[JeremyD]

Wow - wouldn't it be nice to hold ALL these companies that schlep airbox covers, headers, mufflers, cool collars, oil additives and snake oil etc. that guarantee performance to the same standard that Lorenfb wants to hold Steve Wong up to?

Makes me want to pay $75 for a few dyno runs just to shut everybody up...

[KTL]

Originally posted by Jeremy964
Wow - wouldn't it be nice to hold ALL these companies that schlep airbox covers, headers, mufflers, cool collars, oil additives and snake oil etc. that guarantee performance to the same standard that Lorenfb wants to hold Steve Wong up to?

Makes me want to pay $75 for a few dyno runs just to shut everybody up...

Don't say that word!

[greglepore]

Shaun-I have a stock chip which I'd be happy to mail you if you'll return it - opening the DME only takes a couple minutes more than swapping a whole DME.

Nolift-While your heart might be in the right place, you're first line inserted your foot in your mouth-abrasive or not, Loren has a company that rebuilds Motronic and other electronic controls, and he probably knows as much about "how motronic actually works" as anyone on the board. While you might disagree with him about the value of chips (note that Steve MIGHT agree with him about some of Steve's competitor's chips) making a straight out attack that lacks a basis in fact essentially weakens the rest of your argument.

[JeremyD]

Oh Kevin - you know you bought a cool collar for the 8hp gain! HAHA - I am sure I saw one in those pictures of your BEAUTIFUL Car. Cool collar and one of those exhaust tips with the neon lights!

[alf]

I know my well placed PCA sticker gave me at least 5HP (Flywheel of course). But 8HP from the cool collar? Hot diggity.

I have to get SteveW to custom make me a cool collar chip

Steve Rocks!

Not adding value, just yakkin.

alf

[KTL]

Yep. I'm all about the bling. I even have those light-up valve caps on the Fuchs. NOT! Saw those silly things on a Vette the other day and did a



Anywho, i'll agree that Steve is not claiming anything different from the other chipmakers. Steve has done his homework and provides an answer to any question you may have. Plus, if you think his chip sucks butt (which apparently they don't because everybody's happy as a clam with his chip), he'll give you your money back without question. Can't beat that with a stick.....

Like others have said, increasing Porsche performance ain't cheap. But Steve's chip has to be the best bang for the buck you can get out of your 3.2 Motronic IMO.

[CJ]

Steve W, I sent you a PM.

[gr8fl4porsche]

To clarify my previous praise about Steve's chip,

I do not care if a dyno could verify any positive gains or not - we are talking about a power gain equal to half the horsepower of my riding lawnmower!!

My 87 runs and drives better - and its all about the feel. The car is easier to drive and enjoy in the below wide open throttle region.

[911SC Pilot]

What years did they start using boxing that include a chip? Could this be done on a 76 911 ?

[buttjoint]

I installed one of steve's chips and was real happy with it,What does he do? He found a way to improve on his chip, and sends me the improved edition to install all at HIS cost. You don't have to tell me about steve w. Who else would do such a thing? Needless to say I've got one sweet running 3.2 JIM

[c2 rower]

With the stock chip in my 86 it had a noticable flat spot in the torque curve and some surging. I put Steve's chip in my 86. It pulls harder and those faults described above went away. It did not take a dyno to feel it. Trust me on that. I suppose I could have spent about the same amount on some open style air intake, gain a few HP and lot of impressive intake noise. You get tired of that pretty quick.

[NoLift911]

Originally posted by greglepore
Shaun-I have a stock chip which I'd be happy to mail you if you'll return it - opening the DME only takes a couple minutes more than swapping a whole DME.

Nolift-While your heart might be in the right place, you're first line inserted your foot in your mouth-abrasive or not, Loren has a company that rebuilds Motronic and other electronic controls, and he probably knows as much about "how motronic actually works" as anyone on the board. While you might disagree with him about the value of chips (note that Steve MIGHT agree with him about some of Steve's competitor's chips) making a straight out attack that lacks a basis in fact essentially weakens the rest of your argument.

Ha..not like it is the first time I have done that...was not a (real)n attack anyway. Just an informational type query of the like. So if Captain Motronic is the Motronic Meisiter why not put out a chip himself like Steve? Or does he? If he does where is it? If not..........nuff said.

-Jeff
nolift911@hotmail.com

[CrossT]

Steve Wong is certainly the one to work with. I tried another chip with bad results. Talking to Steve, he put together a chip specifically suiting my needs . . . He put quite a bit of effort and time in with me on the phone. Where else could you get that level of competence -- and dedication

todd
86 cpe