3.6 Update & Install Date!

[scottb]

Ryan: Looking good, buddy!

[DByers]

So Ryan, are we going to see you at WSIR on 12-03? Wish I could come down and help on the install but a remodel has taken over my life. Ingo will be there I hear so you should be up and running in an hour or two.

[scottb]

Dan: What is WSIR?

[ischmitz]

Open track racing hosts an event at Willow Streets International Raceway on the 3rd.....

ingo

[surflvr911sc]

Originally posted by bb80sc
Man, Ryan, that is beautiful. Did you say you *made* that aluminum floorboard? Just what kind tools do you have at your disposal

Hope to make it out there next week. Where is the test drive sign up sheet?

Tools? Who needs tools? I just borrow them from my friends.

Brad, remember I was on your last test drive, the test drives might have to be “supervised”. One thing is for sure, I need to take it easy on the rebuilt transmission for a little while. Must…have…self…control…!

Dan, I don't know if I will make it on the 3rd. I haven't signed up and I don't know if I want to drive it up there and run the cr@p out of it four days after the install, that does sound fun though, I'm torn.

I'm getting excited for Saturday!

[Joeaksa]

Ryan,

Any chance you might have a picture of the back of the motor above showing the fuel injection area?

We are not far from putting my 3.6 into the car and are trying to get everything ready to hook up.

The back of the motor has two large (25mm or so) black hose outlets. One comes out of the crankcase, goes up about a foot and then does a 90 degree turn and points to the left of the car on the 3.6. There is a second hose that comes out of the fuel injection body that points to the right of the car. Both have large metal nipple to fasten a hose that runs somewhere but I cannot remember seeing anyone mention it before.

I assume that one of them goes to the brake vacuum booster but on my 3.2 here was only one, not two of these. What did you do with these?

Thanks,

Joe A
Phoenix

[82SuperC]

Ryan:

That is amazing! Beautiful engine! And nice rear wing. I don't know if you have already posted, but maybe you can give a few details on how easy/difficult that rear wing conversion was!

Joby

[surflvr911sc]

Joe, in this pic you should be able to see what you are looking for.

The new fabric braided hose coming off of the top of the crankcase goes to the fitting on the oil tank itself. I removed the small S hose that puts that connection at the top/rear of the intake pointing to the driver’s side. The connection out of the crankcase breather is aim perfectly at the oil tank, right where you want it to go.

The other line that connects at the top of intake goes to the fitting on the oil tank filler neck. The way this flows is from the crankcase breather to the oil tank, then from the oil tank to the intake.

If you want to hook up Cruise Control, you will need to have a T fitting on the brake vacuum line for it. The brake vacuum line connects to the driver’s side of the engine on the same tower that holds the connectors for your left knock sensor, cylinder head temp sensor, and the DME crankshaft position sensor. It’s the line at the top, the fuel return line is at the bottom.



Joby, thanks, I'll do that shortly.

[Joeaksa]

Ryan,

Thanks. I took the cruise control unit off so thats not needed. I will probably go with the setup you have using the long braided hose. Forgot that thats what the early cars had so might as well use proven ideas.

The one hose pointing towards the air filter on top is the one I was going to use for vacuum but forgot it goes to the tank and I can pull brake boost vacuum off of it somehow.

Thanks and will keep marching forward!

Joe

[dickster]

ryan

very nice. you keep a tidy garage there!

and i notice you have some r/c stuff - you fly? just asking 'cause its my "other" hobby.

[Thomas Owen]

Very nice job. It looks like you have done it right!

[surflvr911sc]

Originally posted by surflvr911sc
The brake vacuum line connects to the driver’s side of the engine on the same tower that holds the connectors for your left knock sensor, cylinder head temp sensor, and the DME crankshaft position sensor. It’s the line at the top, the fuel return line is at the bottom.

Joe, reread the above and then look for it in the picture. You should have that brake vacuum connection on your engine. All you should have to do it hook up the line on the car side to it.

I did have to replace the connector on my engine b/c it was a different size on the car side.

Dickster, yes it's my "other" hobby too. I haven't been out for about a year due to traveling and car projects but I plan to back at after the first of the year.

[Joeaksa]

Ryan,

Thanks and between you and Ingo just found it. I have Bill Verburgs old motor and he had the vacuum line still running to the tower where the sensors plug into but it had been plugged so I overlooked it. Guess his SC did not have power brakes but I want them hooked up on my car.

Will route the oil vent lines same as mentioned above and unplug the vacuum line for my brakes.

Thanks!

JoeA

[pbs911]

Looks great Ryan. I'm still ill'in, but am going to try and make it up.

[Bill Verburg]

I think that this is the shot of thar engine that may help best


Mine is an earlier Carrera w/o p/bs

[Joeaksa]

Bill,

Thanks and good photo of the hoses and connections. Now that we have a picture of "our" motor, which rubber hose is the correct one for brake vacuum and what does the other one do?

I would assume that the "bottom one" with the yellow plug on it is for brakes but what about the one just above it?

Thx,

Joe

[surflvr911sc]

The top one should be for your brakes. I really have no idea what the lower one is for. Harald must have removed it from my engine before he shipped it, which is fine w/ me, one less thing I had to scratch my head over.

[Bill Verburg]

I don't seem to be able to upload a pic so you'll have to go by my email

Vacuum lines;
upper is carbon cannister
lower is brake booster

[surflvr911sc]

Interesting, I've never looked that one up. Most conversions I’ve seen have had that removed and the upper one connected to the brake booster. I have a connection on my air filter housing for my charcoal canister.

[Joeaksa]

I do not feel so bad now! You guys have forgotten more than I know about 3.6 conversions and we still are not sure.

I may just start the motor the way it is, then see which hose is pulling what and go from there.

Joe