lowering the front end

[dickster]

corey,

you reading the replies here or what ?

the answer lies in the previous posts - you need to remove the adjuster and reindex the bars!!!

[corey79sc]

what is that i am reading right now. thanx for sending that

[dickster]

ney problem. the info is all there and its pretty easy.

good luck.

[corey79sc]

have you done this before? i want mine to get as low at randys. that is a good look

[dickster]

i'm in the middle of doin it.

done the rear already - its at 23.5". now i got to do the front which is much easier.

you really should search the archives and read up on it though - the rear is more involved than the front.

heres my progress progress - t/bars and bushes install

[corey79sc]

i think i will go and get the 101 book it sounds like it have a lot in it.
do i need to jack the car up when i reindex the car?

[dickster]

the book will be a good investment.

yes, you will need to jack the car.

cheers.

[corey79sc]

thanx a lot you have help me out and not ask me why i want to low it.
corey

[geof33]

Corey...

Hold up son... If your asking if you need to jack up the car to re-index the torsion bars, your in WAY over your head here. What your getting into is much more complicated that simply turning a nut or two. Your basically removing your suspension and rebuilding it. If you don't know what your doing you could make your car dangerous to drive. At LEAST get some research done. Preferrably, bone up and pay someone to help you and learn.

I'm all for DIY but you have to have some BASIC knowledge at least for a project like this. This is definately NOT a one wrench project.

[corey79sc]

it is not like i was going to read this and run out and start doing it now.have i was going to go get the book.

[RANDY P]

Originally posted by corey79sc
randy, i love that look now what did you do to get the front down like that????
thanx

Paid the pros @ Tru Line Seattle.

But seriously, it's the adjustments in the eccentrics in the rear, and as stated above, the adjustments in front.

Note: only the RR wheel needed actual reindexing on my car. Everything else was done with eccentrics. Strictly adjustments with bolts in the other wheels.

If you're gonna try this yourself, lift the nose and hang the wheels, then unwind the left and right the EXACT SAME AMOUNT. One turn at a time. Rears, you might want to pay a pro, it's not that simple to get the adjustment right in the rear.

You will wind up screwing up the corner balancing of your car, which as noted before will make the car do weird things, like lock the wheels up early, goofy alignment, etc.

Expect to spend the money on a corner balance and alignment if you decide to drop it yourself. Think of your car like a barstool, if one leg is too short it'll wobble. Screw it up and they may charge you to fix it - which will be more than having them do the whole thing by itself.

Total cost of operation to take my car down was $585.00 inc. installation of my own rack spacers. Walk in, drop the keys off, go have lunch, take a nap come back and write a check...

If you have the cash you might as well do it that way since you're not saving much adjusting the height yourself, that was actually the lesser part of the labor.

EDIT: if you're determined to DIY: ADJUST THE ECCENTRICS FIRST BEFORE YOU START YANKING BARS! BE CERTAIN YOU CAN'T ADJUST LOWER BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO UNBOLT THINGS!

(might also roll your front fenders now, while you have a chance too. Just fair warning)

Just my $.02

rjp

[corey79sc]

thanx i will think about it. and do some more reading on it.
corey

[RANDY P]

Originally posted by dickster
randy,

looks great that low, what shocks are you using?

what camber?

cheers.

Hey man, how you doin?

I have the HD / Sport combo courtesy of JWW.


Alignment specs are as follows -

Front

camber L -.8 R-.65 deg
caster L 6.46 R 6.64 deg
Toe L 2.7mm R 2.7mm

Rear

camber L -1.62 R-1.5 deg
Toe L 1.7 mm R 1.7mm

Car drives beautifully, tracks well and tire wear is good. 22K so far on these settings, not a single problem. Probably time for a freshening though...

[RANDY P]

One last thing-

Remember to remove the big spacer on the top of the front struts if your car has been untouched! failure to will cost you a new pair of struts in no time flat!

rjp

[corey79sc]

randy you have been so much help on this. i hope i can email you more Q,s as i have them.
thanx corey

[RANDY P]

Anytime. Good luck, it's not as bad or confusing as it seems. Be patient though, one adjustment at a time..

I only paid since it's complex and I'm now too old and fat to be wrestling cars.

rjp

(19 cars over 16 years, 13 of them LOWERED -)

[dickster]

randy,

sorry went off for some zzzzz. rude of me i know.

thanks for that. i was worried about bottoming the shocks so low, but i have the same as you so should be ok.

you managed to get all the negative camber dialed out as well - my rears are showing TONS at the mo, haven't checked the alignment yet.

corey,

i may have a go at dropping the front this weekend so i will post pics. should make it clearer for you.

but you may need an alignment when you are done.

[RANDY P]

corey-

remember to shorten yer bumpstops up front too. Makes the nose "poppy" if you dont.

Happy Holidays everybody.

rjp

[Harlan Chinn]

Randy did you have Byron and his staff lower your car? Have you heard of the guys over at G2 by Interbay or Omni in Kirkland?
I was going to take my car to G2 this spring for a lowering, alignment and corner balance.

[RANDY P]

Yes, Byron took my $$$ and Doug did the work. Found them through JWW and 100% satisfied. They'll get all my biz. At the time I last went it was a 3 week wait to get in there.

Heard good things about the other shops too. Guess it's just a matter of convienence.