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how to make a 2.7 to a 3.0 cheaper than 3000

i have a 2.7 & im wanting to make it bigger with out spending 3000.? does anybody have any good suggestions.any info would be very helpful.thanks jim

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swap it for running 3.0 and sell your core. Look for a motor that has already been upgraded and documented. Rebuilding a 2.7 into anything bigger is going to be tough for under $3k. Good luck!
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Steal a SC..............

Or get one for a steal. Agreed that building the 2.7 is not the way to go. Find a good deal on a 3.0L and do a swap. Hopefully your core will be a solid one and help you recover some of the cost. A refreshed 3.0 is going to be hard to get a good deal on. The ones that are a little tired are those that can obviously be had cheaper.
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yes but let me explain i have a perfect 7r case that has alot off nice machine work done by olies this case has never pulled a head stud,i have a realy nice set of rsr spec heads(small stud spacing) 964 pump s rods olies did all machine work ive got to much in it to throw away im looking on a deal on pistons and cylinders?
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Jim,

Andial 2.9 conversion set is around $5 less than $3K ...

EBS might be able to supply some reconditioned 3.0 cylinders and JE 9.5:1 pistons for a little less ...

Those are about the only real option, unless you expect a windfall estate auction, or something of the like!
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yes but let me explain i have a perfect 7r case that has alot off nice machine work done by olies this case has never pulled a head stud,i have a realy nice set of rsr spec heads(small stud spacing) 964 pump s rods olies did all machine work ive got to much in it to throw away im looking on a deal on pistons and cylinders?
Oh. Well that makes a big difference! Gotta tell us that up front.
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sorry about that, I thought your 2.7 was a used up core.

For $3k, maybe custom J&Es and cams. What induction are you using?

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mfi manifolds with 40 pound msd inj. and a tech unit from electromotive,intercooler on top like 934,twin 996 turbo's with 1&5/8 headers.
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Doesn't JE make their own 2.9 pistons and cylinders now for something like $1900? That's what I was told anyway.
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that is the first i have heard that they make cylinders ill call today thanks ill give that a shot thats more in my range!
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What kind of heads/headwork is need for the 2.9 conversion? Is twin plug necessary?
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andial says its not a nesesity but im twin plugging mine cause of turbo.i guess it depends on combo and useage.
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I guess this is always an option .

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that is what i did not want to have to spend!
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birel23:

The Motor-M says $3k for the kit and the case needs to be open. Any idea what other mods they need to do? Open up the spigots? etc... have you heard / seen performance on this kit?

I ask b/c I have a "spare" '74 CIS 2.7 that I might upgrade.

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the kits i have seen have studs cylinders/pistons rings ect and all say machining case. i just want the cylinders,but i have not seen them sold seperately. i drove a car before and after the andial kit was installed. it much better torque.it felt like sc then. i am worried about the case getting to weak. i race mine. i have never had a problem with it yet. i have never even pulled a head stud & i run 1.2 bar of boost.my case has been align bored & has had oil update& dilivars upper and lower.all the kits i have seen are for non turbo applications that is why i just want cylinders & then ill have pistons made or find a set of good used ones.
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Did anyone find out if Tyson's post was correct? It's too early to call JE where I am.

I have a 2.7 7R case with 9.5:1 JEs and Mahle jugs and MFI. Engine is currently apart for re-build.

Do you guys think the 2.9 set from JE would work with my heads or am I going down the road of no return? I could sell my 2.7 JEs and jugs. Upgrade would be around $900.

Oh. Almost forgot. I thought Bruce Anderson said that the wall thickness of the 2.9 cylinders was too thin. Are these custom cylinders???

Cheers,

Tristan

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