ATE Super Blue available in Michigan?

[sundaypunch]

Well, I went through my two cans from Pelican bleeding my upgraded system. I need another can but would like to avoid the 1-week shipping time from CA and get this thing knocked out ASAP. Does anyone know a local Michigan source where I could buy the stuff? Grand Rapids / Lansing / Ann Arbor would be best.

Thanks in advance.

[mudman]

Sorry, I only know of shops on the East side of MI.
-Jeremy

[ChrisBennet]

If your braking system isn't on the hairy edge (overheating at the track) I'd recommend just getting some Castrol Synpower. Boiling point is 508 (?) vs 536 degrees for ATE. I started using it on the track last year. Works great and is available at Pep Boys.
-Chris
Edit: It's Valvoline SynPower, not Castrol

[89911]

The Blue ATE is still available from different sites. I started using Motul's after suggestion from my shop and haven't been dissapointed.

[KTL]

Originally posted by ChrisBennet
If your braking system isn't on the hairy edge (overheating at the track) I'd recommend just getting some Castrol Synpower. Boiling point is 508 (?) vs 536 degrees for ATE. I started using it on the track last year. Works great and is available at Pep Boys.
-Chris

I think you mean Valvoline SynPower, right Chris?

I switched to that (i'm not an avid racer anyway) since I was tired of wasting all the nice ATE Blue stuff.

Pep BoyZ rocks. Sometimes.

[ChrisBennet]

Originally posted by KTL
I think you mean Valvoline SynPower, right Chris?

I switched to that (i'm not an avid racer anyway) since I was tired of wasting all the nice ATE Blue stuff.

Pep BoyZ rocks. Sometimes.

Oh yeah, you're right. Just had a Senior Moment there. Thanks.
-Chris

[vash]

i have to admit, i got caught up in all the pretty blue colors. next time i am going with valvoline...the only real bonus is the blue lets you have positive proof that you are at the new stuff.

[Bill Verburg]

Sherwood has put together a nice little summary of the properties of some different brake fluid, look here for that info

The ATE amber and blue are the same stuff, the blue just has a dye in it and has been banned by DOT. They insist that all brake fluid be the same color for safety reasons. Bottom line, get it while you can.

I am sure that you can dye your own fluid with what I don't know. As Unfixed has pointed out the utility of the blue is in positive indication that the fluid has been refreshed. You all do it at least biannually, right?

[jchatfield]

I know S & G parts in Berkley carries the stuff. They had a store in Ann Arbor when I lived there in 1996.

[911nut]

S-G Import Auto Parts carries it (jchat, I saw it in the Berkley store too!)

[svandamme]

how many liters goes in the 911 brake lines?

[sundaypunch]

Thanks for the leads. As for the amount of fluid, one liter was more than enough for a dry fill and a couple rounds of bleeding. For a fluid swap one liter should be fine.

[mudman]

Oh duh, yes there is a S&G right on Dixie in Waterford too.

[IROC]

Originally posted by svandamme
how many liters goes in the 911 brake lines?

One liter is plenty to replace the fluid in the entire 911 braking system.

Mike

[svandamme]

ok , now i'm confused, if a can is one liter
and one liter is all it takes

then how come sunday punch needed 2 and is still looking for more?

no offence there, i just don't get it, trying to understand, because i have a PP shipment en route with a can of the blue stuff....

[ChrisBennet]

Originally posted by svandamme
ok , now i'm confused, if a can is one liter
and one liter is all it takes

then how come sunday punch needed 2 and is still looking for more?

no offence there, i just don't get it, trying to understand, because i have a PP shipment en route with a can of the blue stuff....

1 liter should be enough but having more on hand won't hurt.

When you flush your brakes you don't take all the old fluid out first. The new fluid will push the old fluid out but it will also mix some with it too. In practice you'll bleed fluid out of the caliper until it looks good and blue.

When I used to use ATE blue my practice was to flush my brakes in the spring with inexpensive brake fluid (but rated correctly) and then replace it with Blue just before my first track event.

In your case I would recommend flushing out the old fluid with some locally available brake fluid until it comes out nice an clearn and then switch to Blue.

-Chris

[svandamme]

thx chris,
i'm replacing my brake lines at the same time so flushing isn't going to be such an issue

[mudman]

No, but you'll be doing lots of bleeding passes to get the air out of the new lines and seepage out of the unreplaced lines. I would still start with an auto parts store fluid and then do Blue after fully bled. The castrol stuff isn't very expensive. Also, that is just more fluid passing through the lines and hopefully clearing out more debris particles.
-Jeremy

[svandamme]

allrighty , gonna make them lines bleed like freshly slaughtered hog !!

[mudman]

Remember to dispose of your fluids properly!