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I took Rust 101 back when I was ( let me think?) 26 or in 1978 or there about's.
A 1965 Corvette roadster, not from Calif.
Hey, it's fiberglass how bad can rust be. This was a So Cal boy's logic. Well after sandblasting and using rust stop chemicals, Liquid wrench etc. etc. I cleaned it up pretty nice but the mental scars are still with me.
Even a galvinized 911 will get rust on every nut and bolt that holds it together if their exposed and not protected. Just to bleed the brakes can turn into nightmare.

I feel you pain, Milt
Rust sucks

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Keep up the good work. If nobody ever fixed rust then there wouldn't be many 356's and early 911's on the road today not to mention other collector cars. I agree with you too Craig that an early S is very much worth saving.
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Milt,

I am a few towns over and can bring in some beer, just make the call.

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Milt, keep up the good work. It will be worth it in the end. Besides, you are going to need something to drive while you work on the Speedster.

The rust repair that guys like you, Jamie Novak, dtw, and thrown hammer have displayed here is what made me want to buy a welding machine.

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I took Rust 101 back when I was ( let me think?) 26 or in 1978 or there about's.
A 1965 Corvette roadster, not from Calif.
Hey, it's fiberglass how bad can rust be. This was a So Cal boy's logic. Well after sandblasting and using rust stop chemicals, Liquid wrench etc. etc. I cleaned it up pretty nice but the mental scars are still with me.
Even a galvinized 911 will get rust on every nut and bolt that holds it together if their exposed and not protected. Just to bleed the brakes can turn into nightmare.

I feel you pain, Milt
Rust sucks
Bob, that is so weird. My 3rd car at age 18 in 1966 was a '61 Corvette. It was from Michigan, so you know that story. The owner had skipped from MI and was in CA. When the finance company finally got the car, I bought it for $1200 dripping wet and soaked from a good CA rainstorm. The top leaked horribly. Nobody wanted it but me, the fool.

I don't think I got one bolt off that car w/o breaking it. I took the car apart to the bare frame. I had never worked on a car before. It took me 2 years to put it back toghether. I got a trophy at a couple of shows and sold it. I bought a '55 VW convert next and that began a long affair with German cars.

I had an old Chevy truck to chase parts in. I have never been w/o a Chevy PU since and I don't think I have ever been w/o a German car; lots of VW's, some Porsches and one Mercedes 250 SE sunroof coupe (also a rust bucket).

Anyway, today I made a piece to fit a patch area (the big gaping hole in the first post).



Goes right up here.



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Very Nice! Keep going your almost done. Every little step seems like a milestone in a project like this. The worst are the days where you spend lots of time in the garage cutting and welding and then it looks like nothing happened. But the next time you finish the chore and it looks like lots of progress was made.
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Very Nice! Keep going your almost done. Every little step seems like a milestone in a project like this. The worst are the days where you spend lots of time in the garage cutting and welding and then it looks like nothing happened. But the next time you finish the chore and it looks like lots of progress was made.
Sounds like a room addition I once built (except for the welding )
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Nice work on the sheet metal fabbing!

The big problem w/ 911s being rusted in that area is the torsion tube; I know of an early 911 that looked pretty clean on the outside but had hidden rust in the tube. Guy was driving down the road when suddenly, "wham" , the rear end of the car was resting on the tires. It is an absolutely fatal injury when you price a new tube, (only available from Porsche), and the body shop labor to install on a jig, complete disassembly of the car, etc....

Rust sucks. I hope that it works out OK.
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I had the same problem, same place, same patch but smaller(yours looks a whole lot perttier though).
That hidden inner support wall was starting to go as well.
I cleaned as much rust, sprayed a buckload of rust-kill in there, welded in the patch, ground/fiberglassed the edges, and POR15ed the entire underside after scraping all loose factory Weynol(?) undercoating and treating all surface rust.

It's still not a chem-dip but it'll buy some time.
Next step is Wax-Oyl or a similar neutralizer/encapsulator.

The problem with early cars is the little "bucket" in front of the back tires. It catches dirt, dirt catches water, water eats through metal forward, down, and up. I patched those, foamed, smoothed, fiberglassed, and painted. Now theres nothing for flung dirt to stick to. Not concours, but hopefully problem solved.


Also, if there's a panel that needs to be made, all it takes is steel, tools, and a little skill and patience. Check out links in www.metalshapers.org
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You are doing God's work, making that which is wrong right once again. Tis a noble deed.

It always looks impossible, until you start trimming, welding and hammering. Then somehow - miraculously - it all just starts coming together. But you already know this.

Keep at it, we are all here for moral support.
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Damn, I almost want to take up a collection to make it right again. Seriously!

Rust is almost like a death.........the (fill in the blank) is just *GONE*
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Milt has mad skillz. This should be made into a made-for-internet movie.
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Hi Milt,

I just did a search on the topic and saw your project. I may be in the same boat rust wise and wondered if I could check out your work sometime (you're in Long Beach, right). I contemplated doing the work but wanted to see first hand what i was getting into.

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Milt, you've got to soldier on, not sure how long I'll be waiting, but I really want to see those door posts put to good use.

Remember the car I cut up for the posts? Your rust is nothing compared to that one. You've actually got metal you can weld to!

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